Unyielding Fight: Justice for Our Children

0:00 Yeah, good morning. Well, yeah, well, it took me back to when my son was murdered in New York City by the UMPV. And first of all, there was no charge for going to police officer. But then I fought so hard and then I got one police officer fired. You know, because I just put it in and it go. And that's where I throw off and throw it in and it go. So, but you know, everything went out for these officers that was fine And it didn't feel like a victory to me It just was bittersweet It was just one step in the wrong direction Because even if whatever happens to these police officers We can't get our children back So even though we want justice We want accountability But there's no accountability for our children.

0:57 Several things that took a half regarding the case first the jury when we went through a criminal trial for my son's case about killing him the jury was all Caucasian as well and as a jury we didn't even have the jury trial in the county where he was killed at it was 400 miles away so he had to travel that 400 miles But in picking a jury selection, one of the things that we found out, even there was a couple African-Americans who could have been on the jury, but they dismissed them. And so it was an all-white jury as well.

1:39 One of the things that an attorney told me is that as African-Americans, we do not go and want to be involved in the jury cases. So we make an excuse and we don't go. And he said that we have to learn how to make sure we are involved in our criminal cases. Otherwise, we get a peers that do not look like us. The second thing was when we was faced with a jury giving a verdict, the jury came after the verdict guilty of gun enhancement charge and guilty of involuntary mass violence.

2:21 But the judge stepped in still and changed and said, I'm going to contact the 13th juror. And I gave the jury the wrong instructions. So I'm throwing out the gun I've had to be charged. And I'm still going to make sure that I am not charging an officer the way that the community thinks that he should be charged. And so we only ended up doing 11 months in the county shift, never get a felony. But I say that to say that we have to get involved in our judicial system, and when it's involved, criminal cases where there is a jury trial, you didn't do this.

3:05 So the white man, I'm doing the verdict from Tarry Nichols. It took me back to February of the 5th. We found out a court date for the attorney, the district attorney who handled a divorce case in the beginning. And yet, we waited like four years to get in court. We went to court, we picked a jury, and then settled the jury box for like 10 days. And the day that the attorneys were preparing to close, they just spoke and said that Ms. Johnson was indicted under the wrong oath, and he threw it out. Very devastating because she was the reason why it took 74 days to make an arrest. Yes, she had a 10 joke.

3:49 I feel like. Anyone else want to add in today? Just kind of for if it's a good choice. For me, honestly, like what he said, they won't have understood a lot of months. They did what they wanted to do. You guilty for association. If it's one of us who did what they did, they should have been prosecuting it. They didn't do that. And you resemble what you assume. You show them your friends, I'll tell you who you are. At the end of the day, we give them for our loved ones, and we're done to get them back. Y'all got a lot of services, and they don't have that understanding.

4:29 They get slapped on the wrist, and they get to go home. You have to fight hard every day, and you got to drive that you get somebody out there to be able to get in the fight with you. But when you were talking about jury duty and things like that, I've been there for jury duty, and they put me out because I didn't want to believe in what they're going to be believing in. So they're going to always get who they know because a lot of people believe in what they do. It's okay to put your hands on somebody that don't have no accountability. That's just the life that we live in. But we got to stick together and be with each other. We're going to unpack that a little more, getting more to the legal, the justice part and finding that. Did you have some assistance? No.

5:18 We got a lot to unpack today. We're going to get to it. So I'm going to go to you, Ms. Wanda. I don't know if I should go here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ms. Wanda, Cooper John's. Because they have a couple of ones up here. Make sure if you get the right one. I was working during the census and you said, I feel every shot that was fired every day. Talk to us a little bit about that. What are you feeling? What did you mean when you said that I'm feeling a shot that was fired every day? Because literally, I feel any shot every day. My mom was killed while he was doing something that he enjoyed doing. When he left my home, then started running. He didn't have any activity.

6:01 He didn't go to the hospital. And just, you know, they chased him for seven minutes. He was found in front of him. He had to fight. They got picked him up from the shots. There was still a shot that I had in my mind every day. But he, he ended the fight. He knew it was one day. He said, I guess he was saying it's time to go home. And as he ran off, he fell into the ground and died. The last gunshot was, I guess, he just smoked. but in the smoke was a flood. So I'm not the same. That changed me forever.

6:43 And literally every day I used to school those files. And you bring up something because this is a push that happened a little bit later but I want to hop right there and open this up to everyone because we are in an age of social media. We are in a place where now as our best or sometimes our only line of defense is to turn the phone on, is to live stream, is to record. We can say all day something happened, but when you see it, it is different. Now, for us on this side of it, that's like sometimes our only way of fighting, pushing back, or speaking up, or showing this situation and how it really is instead of leaving it to them to go on a court and paint it how they maybe want it to be.

7:29 But I think sometimes we forget the family of those on the other side of those videos. Like, it's been a long time since I've actually watched one of those videos. I have never experienced a loved one who's had that wrong with law enforcement. But me or mom, I can't say last time I watched the videos. I want any of you all, whoever feels comfortable, I want to jump in on that. How do you feel about the videos being posted and shared and all of that? How does that make you? Does it help? Does it hurt? Does it do nothing? You might want to speak on that, but I don't think that. I'm just a sister-in-law, but for me, I think it's a little bit of both.

8:09 And I say that because you want to bring about the murders. We have a lot of young audiences that take to some of the media, and it's like they're vibing. And so we want them to be aware of what the positive happened. They didn't really walk us out of their parents' homes. I want them to, you know, take safety first. For us, it has been a roller coaster ride because May 25th of 2020, we're coming up on the 50th anniversary of George. We have a lifestyle. You can call it one problem. And sometimes we catch so many flights, we are so many time zones. So we just get caught up on, we don't need no autonomy. It's something that simple. And so to open up social media and find out that, okay, today our administration is going to accelerate shopping is a slap in my face.

8:52 To find out like that. to find out that they were wanting to exhume George's body to. Extract blood of his heart to prove five years later that he passed away from an overdose for a lead to the neck. It's an insult. You know, and so you just compare the feeling and then our hearts go out to, because we have a lot of conversation around it. Gianna, you know, she's at that age where she has bullshit media accounts. So, you know, here the little chill chair in her classroom, you know, when she walks outside her door, those things are the things that we have to try to overcome. And it's both a barrier sometimes. And you have to allow nothing else but your faith. Yeah.

9:36 I want to add as well. Video, the sharing of the video is painful, but it helped. Because without video, we're still chanting justice for our lives. The video, it was because I saw the video, because from day one, they kept saying, Mr. Jones, we have video. We got it on video. And I begged for months. I wanted to see the video. I couldn't see the video. But then, when she was doing it, I got to talk to my attorney and say, hey, show me the social media, because the video was there. And the person I asked was, what was he doing? He said, relax.

10:16 He was doing nothing wrong. So we need the video, but at the same time, I still relive that video through the long of a lot. It's shot two-tooth, five-tooth. Yeah, I started spending time when this murder happened with my son. And that night when the media, when the newscaster says, we have a video of what actually happened. Now, I was curious to know what happened. But now when I started looking at the video, it was like them telling my son in front of me. And I never could look at the entire video Because the anxiety got the best of me And like I was yelling at the police officers Let them go, let my son go And I was really falling into a rage When I was looking at the video So, and you know at that time It kept showing the video over and over On the TV, it was all over the place And my husband at the time Who has since passed the raid He would just say Don't look at the D&D Don't, you know.

11:36 If it comes along We turn away from it Because it's a trigger And it takes you back To, you know Even though it has already happened But it's like it's happening Going over again But, you know As far as Those who see it Who does You're not a part of it It is necessary because we want you to see how cool they are to our children. And this is the only way that reality can really stick in. You have to see it. You can't just hear about it because everybody has different perceptions of what actually happened. But when you see it, you can make your own decisions. And so that's why I tell people, you know, either when I'm adults to be on plans or I think somewhere they are doing speeches, they'll say, well, we want you to step out of the room because we're going to show the audience the video.

12:34 And I would step out of the room because it just is too much for me. Even today, it's too much for me. But you know it is necessary you know for all of you and others to see so lakey you can help us you can help us like had our children live in a safe for them so we don't have to be afraid that our black sons won't nap their door. I just want to add that it's also necessary because who can't just walk anymore?

13:21 I just want to add that it's necessary because we can't just walk into the police station and tell them that the police killed our children. Yeah. Because they're running through our side of it. You know, it's always that didn't happen. The police didn't do this. So without people's family, what's going on, a lot of us wouldn't know what has happened. Because for Breonna, there was no video. For the most part, if they kept saying there was no video, they kept them down. They went there to break into our home and still no one turned on a video until they were trying to kill them. So, and they intended to leave no one alive by the risk of God.

14:06 Kenneth made it out of there. And because there was no video, if he wasn't there, we would have never known what happened to the reality. Because I remember seeing brother 13 hours and never even put me shot. I didn't learn that until after I left and went home and heard it on the TV. So that's why part of these videos are for traumatizing for a lot of us, but without just a flag that we didn't film it. Well, to me, I didn't watch the video. It happened to us. That shouldn't happen to no one. for letting three months live into death.

14:46 And I guess the video didn't help because they threw up and got off then. They were not guilty. So that video didn't help, I guess. I can say this. When they were beating my son, I didn't know at the time. I was speaking to my daughter. My stomach started hurting me with that all of a sudden. and I just kept telling her, my stomach hurt, my stomach hurt. And I didn't realize that was my cellist's life and you took it away from me at the time. I didn't realize that. The only thing that video did, if all of we are this, that this does happen to our children.

15:29 At least from these officers, they beat our kids and they murder our kids as if they're nothing. There was an incident in Memphis right a couple days ago where a young lady got hit by a car. No one stopped to help her. The one lady that didn't stop, he said he thought it was a doll industry. So you see, they fell there most faster than any of us, and unfortunately, they're not, It's a true statement, but that's unfortunate, but I didn't see the video of my son. I just couldn't. I actually did see the first meeting up until the point where he said, what did I do?

16:15 And after that, I lost it. I didn't watch it anymore, but it just bothers me that anyone that didn't see the video, they said my son was very polite, and he obeyed everything. And the funny part of all of this, when this happened, they said my son was right on the break of the police. He didn't even know the police was fucking here. He stopped at a red light, made the way he laid the back of her. And that's not like somebody that's running for the police. No. Then they have so recognized about my son.

16:55 And it pisses me off the bombs they'll murder our children and then they'll try to find the way and be able to justify it and that's the saddest thing ever. Me ask this and just maybe like it a little bit it's it's heavy it is and and I'm sure we all feel it but you know a hard spot you all because we're in this forum for the down room to them you all like this every day and and we're just coming on Mother's Day and I think people forget I did that this is just not here I did an interview couple years ago with Sheila Clemens and with Shondell Brooks, her son, murdered in Wawa House because we forget that we celebrate Mother's Day, but there are children who don't have their moms and moms who don't have their kids.

17:47 And that's a difficult day. We forget about this sometimes. So to the moms up here, but also to everyone, share with us a fine memory, a light memory, something that you remember makes you laugh about your loved one, a memory that gives you strength. Let's share something because we want to remember them for, like you said, for the toxic, for the light, not just what everyone wants to make us, maybe one thing, maybe do this, probably not, it doesn't even matter. But a lot of fun memory. Well, I'm going to say it's real quick because it was online. This past Wednesday, I have 30 other children. A daughter and two other stories. And, uh, Irene was the baby, and my daughter was the oldest.

18:32 And they used to rush to try to call me to see them with me first, to call me to say Happy Brother's Day. So my daughter, this time, she paid a post. I hope that's a little bit just basically said, I don't have my brother to wish my mother a happy mother she had. Because Ty, we could call, Mom, is my first one to call you today? And I said, yes, Ty, I didn't think of my first one. So, that was nice if I needed to bring that in. And I'd like to say, Ty was my stepson, but I have one thought, so that he just might have fun and stuff.

19:16 And once we and Ty looked up, it was an interesting connection. And I was my option. I was his bond. But Ty was a, from the beginning, and a, you know, and the one thing I missed the most about Ty is, Whenever I have to probably go to my phone, I'm going to be surprised. On my IT support, and he goes, yes, thank you, darling. And, but I'd also like to say, I'll never forget the first real father's day we had, and I had this family, and he brought me into this family team, and he brought me these lights the door coming to the door and he couldn't be in for me he was so happy.

20:10 To give me these things and I have this feeling today that I will never tell so that's my fondest memory of time so for being my fondest memory and my birthday is December 31st and one of Austria's and she's stumbled and so I could stumble for a birthday celebration and Oscar came over and so I gave him his bowl of gumbo and I had my bowl and he was sitting at the counter talking and so he ate all of his gumbo and so he wanted another bowl so I gave him another bowl of gumbo and he ate that one and so he wanted a third bowl So I gave him a third bowl, but I had my bowl all the time, and so I guess during his time eating the third bowl, he must have got full, because I had turned and walked away, and I know how much I had left in my bowl, and he started putting the dumbbell that he had in his bowl in my bowl.

21:12 So I said, wait a minute, Oscar, and he starts smiling, and he came away. I knew right then that he was getting full, and he had put his tongue in Michael. So, you know, that's a memory that I will always cherish. It's been my birthday with him the last day that I got to see him. I love him. He was really, really. He's a beautiful girl. I think he's a beautiful girl. He got a tip in there. I like yours. I'm a security officer. My grandson was killed in my backyard. But the memory is that they, all of a sudden. She was playing with Dr. Cheese. She loved pumpkin chicken. So I had clicked it.

21:55 But my granddaddy, the sister, she was about seven days old, she had made the praise dance. She does praise dancing. And she may want to take me to the team. So I told her, I said, oh, my baby, I just started crying because it was so beautiful. I said, go upstairs and get your brother because he was up there with my son and his uncle in the studio. And so she went and got her brother and he came down and I said little papa you're going to cry you're going to cry because she's going to really do a thing because we call him little papa and my husband was, he was big papa and so little papa he, came downstairs and he looked at her and he picked her up and he started crying and I knew he was going to start crying because I did too but anyway, the memory was that he said, Grandma, I might not be your favorite but you're my favorite so I said, Grandma I remember that from him and he's on a videotape with me and he says, Grandma, I know that you don't like that social media, Instagram and all that, but I've made you an Instagram called Queen and I still don't I still don't be with the button he always tell me that's it and he said, well and I would do something to my phone.

23:20 So I had an Android thing. Now my grandson, Steph, I'm just going to have an iPhone. Bring it up to speed. You know, when you think about your child, there's so many memories. But I think I'm going to go back to one of the childhood memories that really just made me back of when a Christmas one, I had that Christmas of Highland Ford I bought everything his brother only a year and it came for a car. I bought them back then was the big wheels, you know, and I bought one of the top of the mind big wheels. It was called the slink cycle. It was made just like a slink mobile with the rock wheels and things like a slink mobile.

24:06 So anyway, I said, I wanted to make spaces when you get up in the morning. And so when he came and the eyes lit up, Eric, you know, he had his little things like, oh, baby, oh, wow, support me that for Christmas. And so Eric, he looked at his younger brother and said, every now and you know he's rich. So Kimberly looked back at him and said, I do it all the time, Stugan. I got so much at that. And, you know, they really thought things, which we lived in a public housing.

24:49 And it just felt hard for them to think that they had, that's what my kids hoping they were on in life, you know. Mom, you gave us a good life. You know, we get things that other kids didn't have. And, you know, and they was naming their toys when they were seven and eight, when they was eight and nine, when they was nine and ten. And I said, do you remember all of that? They said, yeah. I said, I can't even remember all the things that I wanted to thank. But, you know, it just still my heart to see that they appreciate, you know, Terry, he appreciated what I did for them as a child, you know. And because he said, mom, you gave us a good night and I said, I felt too bored I yelled at you too much.

25:34 He said, that's nothing. Almost, yeah. I got some good memories about that mean house of God. We're going to keep it whole. I guess I'll talk about childhood memory as well of Brianna. She always was just smart and had this old soul and she hates to be dirty or any get her clothes dirty. She had these shoes that she went outside and they got dirty. So she comes and she's like, I need help. I didn't open. I was like, well, give me all plenty of like, it's not a big deal, Brad.

26:15 And she's like, you know, I love you, but my friend, you get the power. I need my friend. But that was so, I don't know what that means, but she was like, well, my great singer, you know, she plays that song, my last $2, and she could think same thing. She's like, share this song, get out of here, and she's like, I'll just lay up over it. Everybody else have a memory these are some really good and just as a fine we're going to come to the is here in a few minutes so if anyone has a question or topic we're going to become tea precept.

27:00 A lot to talk about with in charge. He had the hard going. He would see a ball was mad. He had been up with a tired shoot. He had a lot of kids. He cut the hair out. A lot of people were running like rapid in my neighborhood because a lot of people were running with the father that had problems. And I don't know if I know what a chili bowl is, but a lot of the kids had chili bowls and he had six days out for them. Get them right out because they're free. And he wasn't in the bottles. But you thought he was so people don't worry they didn't do it they didn't have the money anyway but he would come to make sure that they went to school okay but the thing about George me as the child and my youngest brother it's like military for us because he was always teaching us to be filled with food and have hard hours we wanted to give 110 cents And he took us to play Little League football.

27:59 They made me and my brother go hands up on each other. And me and him was like, basically, like, somebody fat you down. We didn't try to hurt each other. But he made me and those hands up with one of my friends. And I said, oh, that's my friend. That's my partner. That was a world thing. He hit me so hard. I didn't know where I was. But I got it together. Because my brother was right there. I said, I got to play. I got to be hard. I got to be a man. And I was young. I was only like 12. So I ran and hit him as hard as I could. And everybody told me, oh, that was good. That was good. I still was praying to everybody there, please save me.

28:39 I want to be here. But he showed me how he gave me structure. And he was one of the people that told me that there'll be like a lot of people because a lot of people are always seeking validation from the world that crucified a perfect baby and i understood that i took that for him that was george. Brief. My mom was born on Mother's Day in 1994. So, our schedule was in a mother's day. My mom stayed about three hours away. So, we would always go to Bronwyn's house school for Mother's Day. So, one year, Chris Hendricks said, Mama, everybody has a birthday except me.

29:26 We are what he said, Mama. I'm a good kid in my birthday. And he just didn't understand, but eventually we started being in KK Brown's house, but that was always very conflicted. Any one of the highest, heavy questions or comments? Thank you all for being here. Each one of your stories have touched me personally. And she'll just tell me maybe a lot, which is important. Thank you.

30:10 My name is Jeff Lichert. I'm the executive director of the community oversight for the Airheads. I'm going to deal with foolish accountability work. And I have followed your stories for a very long time. Eric Garner got killed a million years ago when we worked around that field. From that point on, I was working at the public defender's office doing criminal investigations into helping defendants. And so I've spent my entire career, even as a police officer, doing some type of work in this field. And so I just appreciate each one of you coming in, telling your stories. My question is to Breonna Taylor's mother and Mr. Floyd here.

30:56 I know that there are some consent decrees that are supposed to be established in Louisville and in Minnesota. And I am also a board member of Nicole, just so that you all know, we're going to be in Minneapolis this year. And so with the consent decrees, I know that they were either talking about them or they had been established. Can you tell us a little bit about what's happening with those and if there's ever going to be any accountability in those cities regarding the deaths of your loved ones? I'm very conflicted about the accountability. I'm not sure that there are any just waiting for them.

31:38 So that's hard to deal with. And as far as the impeachment decree, it's gone nowhere. You know, that's just what it's been taught. there. And then once the Uber and Men's Brace comes name along, we just... In the United States, there's one excuse after another. I'm not sure that we'll ever get it. The way he explains that he's still working on it. He still wants to work with the public and have accountability. But he is the last one who knows what he's doing. Meeting, firstly, the world was stood by several brothers being murdered abroad. The world stopped and it was in a pandemic. at the time. Hold it was everywhere.

32:23 And God shut the world down for everybody to speak what's going on. When he was doing with us, I had hope. But when we went in that court for me, it was like a glimpse of hope because we knew that we were fighting because of the color of our skin and we had a nice amount of money to be able to get some type of opportunity need to get through with what we're going to do. To understand, when you're out there, you got to see a video over and over. Nobody's there to sit there and tell you that it's going to get better because you know it. You lost them. You're never going to get them back. But at the end of the day, you're looking for some type of accountability.

33:05 And that's something that they don't want to give us. And for us as people, we may look like to be in fear of our lives. We have to wake up and tell our kids in the day, make sure that you let the windows down when you're trying to, when you can hold over. They don't have to do that. They can do anything that they want, and they can get dressed. But for us, we have to watch. We have to protest. We have to get out of there, get beat, get beat about dogs. We got to go through a lot. And I can talk about so much when it goes around from the White House to so many different things, because the place that I was at, I don't see how they could have had all those people running there on January 26th and stuff like that.

33:52 I just don't see it, because they would have so many police officers the whole time, but the deal was it every day. And if they wouldn't have had all that, then we would have had it there. It would have been one of them if they filmed it with us. I just tell people, keep your family close, you know, because you're hitting these for hours, you're right there. You never know who you're dealing with. Just prepare yourself. Yeah, I do that because policy and legislative change is what we focus on in California a lot. And after that death of my brother and my grandmother's backyard, we got 8392 passed by Governor Gavin Nislam. in a way it's called, depending on what it does is it's.

34:42 But anytime you do something so bad, word alone must be created, you should be held accountable. And Stephan's work, although I used to force from reaching border nets there, still, you know, officers are going to say, you know, I fear this in my life. That's how you think, I fear this in my life. On my birthday, I was a cell phone. You know, but the same cops who killed my brother to still patrol the streets of Sacramento. They haven't been tired. They haven't been charged. They haven't even convicted. And one of the cops is a black guy. You know, so how's he the fucker in Canada? You may be my color, but you're not my color. You know, I believe bomb force, come on, man. I believe bomb force, these police are the largest and most authentic gang in America in history.

35:23 There's one J. Wade on the American top top. Tell them I sent you. You want me the job. You want me the job. You used me to ask a referral. But anyways, you know, if they say blue lives matter, blue lives don't matter. Let's be talking about the Cookie Monster, the Avatar, the Lilo Stichy Lose Guns. But, you know, that's the kind of code they try to put in our head. They try to, you know, normalize this. And they think that we become desensitized because we see it so much. And we can't even desensitize that we need to have actionable items. You know, policy and legislation is good, but the community needs to be informed and educated on the policy and legislation. And when we stay informed, we've got to break that down for our people.

36:04 We've got to give them facts on the policy. And we have to give them more social and intellectual instruction on this policy and let us. We lost a mob in February 2020. In June of 2020, Don Raekamp in Georgia gave us a head climb-off, and that was introduced because of the way that a mob was killed. Also, when he was killed, they were using something called a citizen's arrest.

36:47 And that's no longer looks in Georgia. When the city of Memphis, when the song happened to Tyree, the beautiful citizens of Memphis, They saw a thing that asked for an insistent things of that nature of Tyree's name. Unfortunately, the trainer of this day alternative things don't come. Nothing is in place as a plane now. He had a nice conversation with him basically telling me I'm sorry about your son but we're gonna focus on this so, For most of us, we can get a lot long before accountability, because as well, we have the Mariana's Law, which is a ban of no-knock loans.

37:36 But anyway, because it's happening everywhere, it's just happening in the middle of the WGI. So again, for California, we do fight a lot for disemplementation. But I always start, if we look at the beginning of history in the 1900s, when we was coming over to America via Brockhofer, we understand that the policing system has really not changed. It's really just a different outfit that's being worn right now on today. And so because the policing system has not changed.

38:17 So important for us to get in there and make sure that we continue to sound our voices with the trumpet and make the noise. What happens in our society is we operate for a movement for a certain period of time. And then after that time expires, we go back to doing everything normal. And so our society said, just give them a few months, they'll go back to normal and everything will be back type was we have to make sure that we don't stop putting pressure on our society to make changes so when stephan was talking about 83 392 there was other bills implemented during that time period one of the things that we talked about is making sure that there are citizen review boards all the way these police stations and around because it's important because now that we have camera people are seeing and can believe differently, but it's important to have these review boards to try to hold the officers accountable.

39:24 But in the accountability, when you think of that blue line, it doesn't matter what color the officer is, you will learn that they are going to be right there protecting one another, lying for one another, even in the midst of losing our children. I don't know about anything, but I know what happened to me when I lost my son. I know how the officer, there was an officer right there when the officer stood up and shot and killed my son. The other officer says, I didn't even hear a gunshot. I didn't hear anything. So they will get on the stand and lie. And until our society begins to say, we're not going to accept them getting on the stand and lying, but we're going to hold them accountable because they're not held accountable right now, We will continue to see this throw of people being killed at the hands of law officers until our communities wake up.

40:21 Them together and say we're not going to accept what we have been accepting all these years because for right now we accept too many different things when it comes to policing and because we've watched the media so long the media played a big role oftentimes we believe what the media said when they put it on television right the only reason why that is changing is because our young radical kids are up and they're filming it and they're posting it. But now that's not necessarily true, what you were saying. See, because if there's no media, we've heard all the killers that took place without media and they, oh, they was running, they was fighting, they had a gun.

41:04 We've heard all these things, right? And so we have seen them until recently where the videos have done, which can change the perception of our police. And that's what we tell people. don't believe what you see go find out and research it yourself get involved and then make a informed decision because we make too many decisions based on what we're seeing and that will be known. I also want to comment on that too because like when my grandson was still in my backyard there was people everywhere all the media all kinds of stuff was all on the media and I said, the tape that they gave me, that wasn't true.

41:51 I mean, they made him look like, first they'd lie in the city it was a pipe and then they turned around and he had picked up something but then they turned around and said it was glass broken up the windows of people's cars. I mean, you could kill somebody, they shot hungry 20 times in my backyard and I'm thinking if somebody over there had to Thank you. The back of us, it was apartments. It was called Hall Gables. So they almost had like shootings or something. So I'm assuming it was that, but it wasn't. And so that's what I'm saying for the media. I really did. I got really sick when I was with the media. It was terrible for me. I couldn't look at no tape.

42:38 I couldn't do nothing with that media. So yes, the media, now the young people are accepting it. And for them to come to make it, you know, that it's well known that this is really what happened because they had an outrage. They had everything. The whole family, all the family, went into mental stage. My grandson, he jumped along the mayor's desk and everything. But they got his attention. He shut down the King's Day. He shut that down. He shut the city down. It was obviously them, but they were bringing troops out for him because it was, I guess, but the media, like I said, that media, and that's what changed.

43:24 I want to, if we can go very quick into that, we have a couple of other questions, then we're going to circle back this way. If you have a question. Yeah, Dr. DeMar, I'm back here. Thank you to the audience to introduce myself. My name is Favrean Radiga Mills. I'm applauding you as civil rights activist. Mark McRae. Robert McRae, Scott, Nick Greggie, Ash Dalton, John Lewis, Vernon Jordan, and many others at mid-margin across this country. We put on the 62-day protest of a national news here for George Floyd, for a lot of problems.

44:05 We walked with Trayvon to set people down, and he had to get out of jail. So we've been in this fight. What I like to say is that over the years of protests in the grossest country, have great conversation and still great parents and y'all can dance and put it in together. But from watching across the country, from fighting where people like to come into spaces like this but don't want to do the work is the key issue to me for all the people. Because to fight in silence, to fight by yourself, you fight with a small group and we get together and want to have meetings like this.

44:54 I want to say to this audience, this is a great honor. Thank you to Cheryl and Nan for putting this together. Please give this audience what you need from us. Because as a simple right now. You march in these places across the country. You march by yourself. And later on, there's a great panel trying to analyze What else? For Tommy Nichols, the NAACP, across this state, man, across this state, we should be in Memphis. Let them know. The hell is it?

45:35 Until you get to the point where you understand that it's time for us to stand together and fight. Well, they're going to get to campus. They don't want to see us come together for time. They left us. These people calling me saying, what's going on? This movie don't do it. They were calling you from out of state. I said, these people are flying. I'd like to ask you all, can you give this audience what you need from the people? Because this is what happened again. And again, great question. And again. Yes. We need a great question. Yeah, that was a great question. What we need from the audience is to ask for what I was. You know, I always think that was key recommendations for you all on how to prevent these atrocities.

46:20 Also, you know, passion without direction is chaos. And passion with direction is murderous. And we're just being a solidarity all along, but solidarity without organization is useless. How are we coming together? What are the solutions to prevent this stuff? You know, the policy and legislative changes there, but let's talk about the resources of their healing spaces. You know, social justice is a big thing, but food justice, economic justice, housing justice, all of that got to be on social justice. So there's a lot of actual, I mean, I might as well have to call the stack six. We'll go over it after or whatever. But that was a good question. That was my favorite question. I just want to say something because what you two brought up was a really good question.

47:04 So with the Tyreen Nichols the situation that happened there I'm going to tell you how the media confused the public and they came out and they said that they will have a jury trial and the case will be. Prior to chattanooga so i have the chattanooga president here today too and they everybody she got everybody together in chattanooga so they can be at that here but the trial was in memphis but the the the juror was coming from chattanooga to memphis so they confused it and you all had the nine-day trial and we thinking when the media came on and said what was about to happen we thought that the trial was about to happen again so when you listen to the media and like you said mother when you hear what the media says you hear what they say you see it with your eye and don't hear you don't believe what you hear because what we heard was not the truth and i i I mean, I just, everything that you all have said is just a special heart. Because I have a son.

48:26 I have one son. And I have one grandson. And I take that back. God also gave me a bonus son. I go to sleep every night, I pray. When my phone rings at a certain time, my heart beats real fast. When someone knocks on my door and rings my bell, my heart beats real fast. And that's not a way for us to leave. But now in this world, in this society, now this is the only lady. There's always one of them. There's something that's going to happen to your love. We have one question back here and one up there. Well, Paul, let's get the response first to that next question, and then we'll go to Dalvin. Yes, thank you, Dalvin. So one of the things that moves our society is Dalvin. Okay.

49:10 You have to come up with a strategy that will cause the amount of economy to go in. When my son also was killed, one of the things that the protesters and the unions did was for the port of Oakland, California, they stopped anything from leaving the port and coming into the port. And so during that time, I forgot how many billions of dollars was lost during that period for them doing that. And that's when they began to move. So if you don't move them with what they want, which is dollars, then they're not going to move.

49:51 And so one of the things that I would always say to families who are going through is you have to keep the pressure on them. If you don't keep the pressure on, they'll know, oh, it's just a fad, it's going to pass, right? And so even though my sister didn't get into justice that they wanted in the lower court system. Mean you stop bothering the Lord court system. You still got a real disruption. You still got to get some good trouble standing there, being there, and saying, no, no, no, I don't accept what was given to us. And so we're still going to fight. We're still going to have people come, protest, whatever they need to do to make sure that our society stays woke and know that we're not forgetting about what happened to Tyree Nichols because too many times many of our people don't even say anything about their loved one being killed and we don't again to speak up about and make sure that we are on one accord and finally to ensure that justice is served and we know that our what would be justice is our children being here but we still want a measure of justice to make the society that we're not going to accept what you're doing and because we're not going to accept it if i have to be at the courthouse every day guess what i'm going to be there if i have to be in front of city council i'm going to be there if i have to be in front of the board of super bottom i'm going to be there it has to be a commitment and there's so many people in this fight they want to

51:24 watch the cameras but then when the fight is when the cameras are out there they are disappeared too and then you got to be. We'll do one back there, answer, and they come to this. Oh, yeah, my name is Jason. A lot of the family members know me because I'm sure I'm willing to bank them in New York and stuff with ass shop. I just wanted to say, really not a question. Let's just say, what I guess is the question. Y'all travel around the country and tell y'all story, but do anybody ever ask y'all how y'all feel?

52:08 I mean, really, how are you doing? Because y'all come to give us so much, but we need to know, like she said, what do y'all need for months? But also, y'all know, I call me all the time. You feel what I'm saying? Don't just meet these other ones and then just stop and go back and tell your friend, oh, hey, I met Breonna Taylor's mother. I mean, why don't you call Realitative Mother and see how she's doing sometimes? Call George Floyd's brother for longness and ask him, how you doing, brother? Because I show up a call, step on and say, how you doing, brother? You feel what I'm saying? That is what we need. We need to be able to love on each other. This is, we know what we up against.

52:49 I mean, it's so many of y'all like y'all across the nation. We know what we up against. So now we need to know how to love And to poem each other That's all I'm going to say. On that note I have a lot of friends That say Man I just want to give you some space, I'd be saying, we need our friends to call us and give us comparisons to pray for us. You know, space could be a week or space could be two or three months.

53:29 But at that same token, don't tell me that I was thinking about calling you, but I needed to give you some space. We need to hear from you know uh as a family as a community as a this this fellowship we have to figure you know we're part of fraternity and we don't want to be a part of you know what i'm saying but now that we are a part of that we want to continue to fight together but if we do need that encouragement and that uh those phone calls thank you i'm trying to people say oh i want to I wanted to come around and I didn't know what to say. I tell people all the time, you don't have to say anything. It's simply okay to take up space with us. It's simply okay to come in, hug it up.

54:14 We don't have to talk about what happened. We don't have to tell that story over and over. Everybody knows the story. Simply take up space with us. Simply be in the room. It's all you need is sometimes. Thank you. Thank you all so much. My question is very similar. I'm Raymond Taliette, I'm the Director of Racial Justice Ministries, and I'm also a pastor of the military here in Nashville. And one of the things that is very clear that, as you said, you're part of a fraternity, a sorority that no one wants to be a part of.

54:55 And it's heavy to know not only that you've lost a child, but also that no one really cares. There's no true accountability in what all are created that definitely might knock it down and all types of things that have happened throughout or not fully enforced. And so you might have a no-not-of-a-stop-stay-walking and all types of things are happening. And so it builds the anger, the frustration that is righteous that makes us work to do the thing that we're faulting. But also, in the midst of that, that anger only causes us to burnout. And that's when movement stops. We're so angry, we're so messed up, that we feel frustrated with this new administration.

55:40 Like a something every day. And my question for you is that what I also heard today were stories of great love, great joy, of remembering, of finding the tale of how much I love you on Mother's Day, and all of them saying, and those stories of love and joy, that is what keeps us hassled. It's just why when building civilized women, when they would be down, that they would sing songs in the midst of all of that. And I'm wondering, how do you all keep joy, how do you keep hoping, how do we share, keep this movement with the anger and the joy? Like, because we still need the anger, but how are you keeping the anger and the joy together to keep and push the work that he's going to be done so that our children, the children, the children might possibly live in a land free? I'm glad. I understand.

56:33 You know, I want you to say everything you said is true. And a lot of times we fight so hard to do to get burned down but what happens is when you get burned down sometimes you got to take a step back sometimes you just got a little cup over your head that morning and said i'm not getting out there i'm not fighting today you know i just want to take a rest but now after you get yourself together you get back up the next day and you start find no order you know but sometimes you gotta take that step back and we have to fight behind the cameras as well as in front of the cameras you know there are a lot of things that i have done behind the canvas as far as getting executive orders cast well me and other mothers from new We went to Albany, which is our state capitals.

57:29 We lobbied. We asked people to co-sign bills with us. And that's how I got the Eric Garner anti-tropo bills. This was all done behind the camera. I really got the legislators to fight with me. And the ones who said that they voted against it, I went to community meetings where they would be, and I did roll for a lot. Why are you not fighting with me? What is the reason why you're not doing this for me? So this is what we have to do. We have to keep fighting with the community behind us, and that's another way that you can help us.

58:10 Any time that you hear that the legislators are in town and there is some war that has been done, you can go there and you can speak up. You can even go for the reasons they have meetings once in, just had to keep it going like we can't just sit on our couch and look at a new story another child like you oh that's so bad another child like me no we can't just sympathize we got to sympathize. Well it's easy for me you don't need money or fame to fight all you need is the truth and the wheel to keep going that keeps you motivated and you get up every morning.

58:59 I do everything just like working out. You got to push through because every day there's going to be a struggle. But if you keep moving, you're going to get everybody in the right situation. I'm always fighting for, especially poor people, so they can have to understand it to get a job because they need to have the trails. They need to be able to do that because if we don't put them in that situation, they don't want to step up and want to move with you for a reason. And that's what happened when the Democrats was fighting in the office. Nobody was pushing for people to get the trades and get the jobs. They held our people back. Because on a lot of things that I was a truck driver so I know where money comes from.

59:42 And they had that opportunity to be farmers, welders, angivac, whatever anymore, they couldn't get it. And they had the opportunity and no disrespect to any other nationality, we have the opportunity to be a good life in life because we take the streets in this world. We did a lot, but we're selecting right now. We're holding ourselves for that. If I die, get the door. We're supposed to do anything. That's a fear. I'm going to say something after you when I want to. He talked about an actionable item. One of the actionable items that you people could do here is to help Tyrese and Uncle Sam.

1:00:26 One of the ways, too, that you can also go and help them is find out when their city council meeting or their board of supervisors meeting and go to that meeting. Because how many of us in this place have actually went to where he was still at to any of those meetings? Want to get that i want to encourage you if you have not even though they gave a verdict you can still go into the board of supervisors meeting or your city council meeting and tell your. Dissatisfaction and let them know you know what what you guys did how the officer was found they were found not guilty we don't agree with that we don't like it and you need to voice that in those offices because that police place, that city know, the commission know, that police station know that you are aware of what's going on and that you are not in agreement with what's going on and that's where your voice can really start at.

1:01:29 And they try to do that as well as to sit with them and be there in whatever direction they give you to follow, to help and follow that direction out to help give them take the form of justice that they're looking for. Yeah, I just wanted to add that, you know, I think the question was around how you navigate the joy and trauma. So when my grandma gets on therapy, when I take therapy as well, but I would believe for families like mine, self-care is the most important form of health care. So I believe that we've got to take care of ourselves. Whatever self-care is, you need a self-care.

1:02:10 Number one is my mother. That's Jenner, so yeah. And for your team, Jenner. Hi, my name is Dr. Gloria Woods. I am from Chattanooga. I'm a practicing of Dr. Dent's surgery for birth type use. And I've owned my business for 35 hours. And God has blessed me to be in a position to be your owner, one of only two, but I'm bringing those stage piece, WQB 1001FDM, in Chatham New. I was born and raised in Chatham New, and I promise that Chatham New falls with me.

1:02:51 I'm friend of the first Chattanooga Man organization in Chattanooga. I went to jail school in Memphis, met my first cousin in Memphis. So my roots are deep, and from this time in Memphis, I can promise you, and anybody that knows me, knows that when I do things, I do it right. Okay, so I'm a very analytical person. I've heard a whole lot today. There are some questions that's got to answer because we were confused. I will tell you all that I'm the president of Austin Park Development Corporation, which is the only black community development corporation in Charnooga that own millions of dollars from the backstakes.

1:03:43 So we have a power to do some things, but it has to be strategic. If I learn anything in life, I've learned that if we go out there five times a while, and when it all comes away, we won't get done. Right? So I would like to see a GMK star who was saying, writing letters, going to the city council meeting. They hear you that one time, they give you three days to talk, and then you're done. Right? This is my side of the week and chat with Hamptonshell. To see us form the campaign with these wonderful mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters here on the stage that the letters the letters will go unanimously together to each one of these and the nationalities and cities and states where these mothers have been done wrong I have three children they're all grown men and I have two girls and one son and my son is a good old American hot dog kid, And if I got the news that something happened to my only son, and I tell him every day, son, if you're pulled over by the police, as soon as you see the blue light, you call your line.

1:04:55 So I can tell you where you are. So it's to the point to where we've ordered some data scams. This guy's been dangerous. But I want to know where they are immediately. Put your hand on a steering wheel. Ask the officer. The question is, sorry, thank you. The question is, what can we do in Chattanooga for young organizing the efforts with you and all the other folks on the panel to get the letter writing campaign started? And if you would tell us that, I would help you and get you on radio show so that your voice can't hear.

1:05:35 I think pretty much everyone here said just keep it going because you are in it every day and you're tired. You need to add somebody in but collectively showing up consistently and all the time but specifically for Tyree's family as it relates to Chattahoga. What can she do to support? Well, like she said we all have to have a voice because at the end of the day was atrocious. When we saw George Floyd in 2020, the whole world saw George Floyd die on that ground with that man's on his neck.

1:06:18 And when the world saw it for the first time. I never thought that this would happen in a million years that that type of incident then what happened in Kingway. I know we do need a lot of help. All the mothers are here. We go to these city council meetings and fight. Have I been to New York, Washington, all these places and grieving at the same time. But it's funny, people really don't care about us. They I don't care about our students.

1:07:01 Like Wanda said, the only time they care is when their money is being removed or disrupted. Police officers did to my son should have never happened. That should have never happened. And what I would like though, and I'm probably off subject a little bit, but what I would like, I know they say they need reform in the police departments and things of that nature, but those police officers need to take mental evaluations. Every six months.

1:07:41 They say every year or every two years, but this world is crazy these days. I get it. Everybody has problems, but they chose the job to be a police officer and to protect and serve. And a lot of them, and I'm not going to say all, because we do have some great police officers. I know a few of them, but we have some bad police officers out there. And those are the ones that we need to figure out and get rid of. And if we can do that, I think we'll have a bad chance. I really can't. Don't be here. Yeah. My name is Pastor Phil Gale Walker. I'm a social pastor here at Fairfield.

1:08:26 I'm in a very capable industry. I'm about to have these young guys, senior pastor. I had permission to come here and just listen to me and say anything. And then she said something, stir something up in it. And we talked about the guilty verdict and how they were found not guilty. Not guilty, not guilty, not guilty, but found not guilty on 29 charges. There were much more that they were found not guilty on, on all those lesser charges. The reason why it hit me was because on March 24th, 2015, my 24-year-old daughter was murdered by her boyfriend and went to the court two years later sitting in that process and they found him not guilty. And they could at the very least have found him guilty of wrecking his homicide in the same way it could have done in this town of Terry Nichols' case.

1:09:14 But they chose not to do it. And what that indicates to me is that there's a problem within our justice system. There's a problem within our political system. Here in Tennessee right now, we have a supermajority in our system here that's legislating all types of evil. But people are able to get in these political positionings because of us not participating and the things we should be participating in. You know, I'm an excellent friend that happened to come out with my voting advice because of the years that I was convicted of my crime. And I had the ability to vote. But there are many others who wish that they could vote and would participate in the process that they can't.

1:09:57 But then we got those who can vote that will sit home and don't vote. And then we'll come together and we'll complain about what they're doing when we put vote people in. And also they would challenge the stuff that we're displeased with. So as long as we sit home on our behinds and do nothing, we have no reason to complain about what's going on. But if we get out here and stop marching just to be in front of people, but march for your purpose to accomplish something in this government that we have to live in, and stand for change again, every day, or if you're not going to let them put your things to shut up and get fucked. To all the facilities. Thank you.

1:10:44 Okay, I don't so much as I have a question, but I do have a comment. My name is Patricia Lurie, and I'm from the Nantra, Memphis. We haven't been established that long, but we are good on Tyrese Nichols and the verdict. It is not the end. But what we do need is to give them what they need. They need support. they need people we have to have people behind them to push through to where we try to go and so many of you all made the perfect company we need each other not just in Memphis we can galvanize but whatever we need I say we every time that it has to happen we are the people, understand what that means and take it in our own hands and do what we need to do for our people and they have to answer to us.

1:11:53 We have past, but we must understand that we have that. We galvanize ourselves from all over. No matter what the situation is, each one of them can have all of us there pushing for him. Not for one day. He pushes till he breaks. Amen. And then we're hearing, I think what it's still, we're hearing a lot of the saying. It is what you all need, support. You all said it, you all said it, galvanize, show up, not just some days, every day, all of that. Let me ask you all, what does justice look like? Because we said we fight for justice.

1:12:39 You know, we can talk about a verdict, but if you do get the verdict, does that feel like justice for you? We can get legislation passed. So as we talk about and ask you, how can we support? What do you need? And I think for everyone else setting up, we got it. They need us. They said it. But let me ask you all, what does justice look like for you in your situations? Is there such thing as justice for you? So what does it look like? Well, justice for me is my son, Tommy, that's home. And that's justice for me. But I believe there's really never any justice as far as I'm concerned. But if your story or if you could help someone else or prevent this from happening to someone else, that's justice for me.

1:13:28 Because at the end of the day, my son is unalive and he will never come home. So there's never, there never could be any justice, even though they might go to jail on the federal side. My son is in a urn right now. Their families can visit there in jail, but I could never look or kiss my son. So there's never really any justice on it. But as I said, if we can help to prevent this from happening to someone else, that's the justice for me.

1:14:12 Justice for me is my brother, he received a life sentence. So on the other end, they need a life sentence. That's what justice is. because I'm from the province and if you talk to anybody in the province, they'll tell you they killed 10 of mine, I'm going to kill 20 of theirs so the bottom line is give up some type of autonomy because we need that, I'm going to take off my number one, when she said, you know, justice is not my loved ones here. We don't have our loved ones, so there ain't no justice. You know, Dr. King said justice delayed, justice denied. And, you know, we can delay justice for too long. So what we like to do is more accountability for what these officers did to our loved ones.

1:14:57 But justice, I think, when my wife took me, most of y'all fell down when we came down because we're not our loved ones. I was talking about that earlier and this is organized chaos and it's chaotic when it's organized and we got to move and we got to galvanize and we got to stand together as one but we got to get under people to be able to have that understanding and want to do it too we got to be able to get these people structured because the people that we need we need them to be able to clam up but we got to help them nobody's helping these people, so they don't want to say anything. The struggles we've been fighting for, we've been fighting for 400 years.

1:15:38 And all the stuff that they've been passing on us, and all the people that got voted in, people have reason why they voted the other side. But right now, you don't see us out there watching. Who do you see out there? You see Caucasian people. They're fighting for something we've been fighting for. And right now. We still trying to get these people to get life sentences. They give these people a slap for a minute. And we got to wake up every day and see the same stuff on the news. Somebody else being murdered. Over and over and over again.

1:16:20 I guess this day justice would be when all those police officers who were advised and stood for counsel and all the transparency would come out about what they actually did. And even though none of those officers got charged, I still made them come to court, got a foil, I made them testify, and they may never be charged, but I will correct them to death. So justice for me there's no justice for our children our children can't come back so there's no justice but we just need to feel some kind of peace in our heart that something was done because of their murder and even when there is something done even those of us who've got a little justice, I call it a little justice because we still don't have our children.

1:17:19 It doesn't feel as good as we thought it would feel. We don't, because when that officer got fighting, I thought I would feel joyous. It wasn't that kind of feeling for me. It was the sadness plus it didn't do nothing to do with my staff. So, you know, justice is, you know, what you want justice to do. It sounds like, as we're past the mic, it sounds like accountability is more the goal than, I mean, of course, we want a verdict, right? We want, you know, the conviction. but accountability is more that and and prevention of the future okay well that's exactly what i was going to say it's really more about accountability and the prevention because the thing is this we can get all accountability in the world but if we tomorrow there's another variety and then one and then the fact that we it shouldn't take this long it's five years for me 10 for others three for some you know it should never take that long to get any type of justice and then what's gonna happen is when we don't there's gonna be more of a surgeon these different worlds.

1:18:27 This, for me, what we used to say is, it's just us right here. Justice is just being able to seek accountability in this face of, I always said that it is a conflict of interest, in my opinion, when the district attorney is working to charge the police. And I say that because they often come together. They often play golf together. their kids go to school together, and so they're definitely not going to work to get their friend convicted who they work with all their lives.

1:19:07 So accountability is one, being able to see that separation and understand when our children are killed by the police, to be able to get an attorney that is not representing the polices in the court system causing our children to go to jail. The second thing that I like is oftentimes the coroner's office and the sheriff's departments usually work together. And so because they work together, the coroner's office can render the death certificate the. The sheriff's department wants the deficit get rid of it that's another department that i would like to see separated and so we have to look at the way that our system is built at the different layers and understand that until he began to dismount and to tear down some of these layers and rebuild them differently that we're going to continue to get the same results that we have been getting for years and the last thing that i would like to see because we go none of us up here have gotten the justice that we want again that accountability it's dealing with food from police officers we talked about previously uh i'm a sister that i was on that you can become a barbara.

1:20:30 Almost faster than you can a police officer and so the majority level of those that are becoming police officers have really in a sense if you look at the age level where when we look at how our society is ran and how it's said that men mature at a slower rate than women so when you have someone going into the police force that's 18 and 19 and 20 years old or 21 years old rather starting at 21 they may not even be mature enough to carry a gun and so i think that that has to be looked at the way we're doing our hiring practices, the way we are reprimanding our police in the system, in the police stations, because oftentimes they are allowed to kill in one city and move to the next city and get a same policing job.

1:21:22 And it has to be a database that we was talking about trying to come up where when they kill in one city, it's made known, hey, you got this police officer coming into your state and he's already killed in this city so things like that have to be brought and implemented to ensure that that accountability portion was there. And what she was saying about that they follow the cases of some of these police officers The unit that was involved in my son's murder was called the Scorpion unit.

1:22:11 Is supposed to go around these high crime areas and look for people going through us and doing all this different type of stuff. I don't know why they just in my neighborhood and put this down the crime crime here, here, but they went there. But my point is to say this, those young men, I think the oldest was 31. One of them had birthed at a Burger King three years prior. So what I'm saying is when we have these type of humans I understand there's problems in the cities but I feel like these type of humans should have more qualified officers because you've got these young guys coming in they have these badges and they're broke you know so that's one of the things that I'm fighting for.

1:23:04 Is to be able to when we have these units to have officers that are seizing, that can understand the streets a little bit better because a lot of the things you guys didn't hear about my son's case in the federal trial. And the officer basically said, the only reason why he pulled my son over is because he was pissed off because he had made an arrest and a girl here stopped. So just imagine sitting in a courtroom, your son is dead, and you heard the police officer say, Well, you know, he really didn't do anything. He grabbed that blood. He went through a yellow light, but he made it.

1:23:48 But I was so pissed off that I had to stop him because the earlier stop failed. Could you just imagine that? Somebody telling me that, that that's the reason why your child is not here? because they were mad. And this is what I say, that these police officers. Through mental evaluations at least every six months because this just doesn't make any sense. Not that every time you turn on the TV, you see one of our children murdered by the police officer. I guess we know there's a black on black line. We all love that.

1:24:30 But at the end of the day, these people were hired by us. our tax dollars pay their salaries and they're here to pretend to serve, not to murder our children. Yeah. Really quick, I just wanted to provide an example or express the importance of voting through an example. If 47 decides to examine a pardon, but at a federal level, he will still see 22 years on a statement because of that conviction on both levels. If the governor, who is Tim Walsh, would have to pardon him on a stable rental. And so that's why it's so important to vote. A lot of candidates are like, I'm not voting. I don't know anything about this person.

1:25:13 You know, they had all sorts of reasons that said why didn't they vote. They didn't believe in the administration and so on. But it's important to vote for someone, you know, so that collectively, they are good ones, is ultimately making a final decision. You want that, you know, person to not get off. It's important to express the importance of that. We've got time for one last very brief question before we read. Oh, thank you for me. My name is Nancy. For our second, make sure the mic is on speaker. Hello? Are you? My name is Nancy Dawson. I'm a former professor of black status. So, uh, you know, I've been sitting here thinking, what you're describing a lynch is a legal lynch. We make a ton of money like that.

1:25:53 And, uh, you know, you know, I'm kind of emotional because I had been through, I was just in Kentucky. And you know, you know anything about Hopkins Field, you know anything about, uh, East Kentucky. You know, I had police bullets on me, and I woke up. So, you know, we're still terrorists. All of these terrorists. And you can be a man or a woman, but you think that I'm here to say that I'm terrorized. You know, cause they steal the pain. Every time I say please, I think I may be a constant. we shouldn't have to live like this we shouldn't have to feel this pain and misery so we feel it to people.

1:26:34 And I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all the things you've done. Thank you for your crisis. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate what you do. And we suffer too. And all of us suffer this long. And we don't fight. And we don't fight. Thank you so much. I want to, as we close now, just, you know, I'll give y'all just one less time to really circulate the microphone. You know, anything, because I know some of you have some projects that you're working on, books, documentaries, if you want to share information about that, how folks in the audience can access that.

1:27:17 And then any memory that you want your loved one to have. Because we don't, one of the things I always say, because it's a difficult question, approach that I had to make to people when I'm not on whatever news story and I've got to talk to them and something just happened or the day after. And I was very sincere in it. I want to talk to you about the memory, the life of your loved one, not how they died. How do you want us to remember how your loved one lived, not how they died? When you're just walking through my body. I love to memory life-and-life to switch that on in a positive life. One of the main things we have in the movement, when we say something like sing their names and then the crowd say the other thing And, you know, we had recently, about a year or two ago, we did the Stephon Clark College Preparatory Middle School.

1:28:10 And thank you. Thank you. All three of y'all. Thank you. But the way we're doing was with that middle school, they spent my brother's name every day, you know. And that is how, you know, I always say that can be like a legacy when I was like, because my brother just has some kid who was an arm killed in my brother's back daughter. He was the father you know he was the brother now uh kids record cards and all that have his name on the kids graduated this school so uh yeah so uh say his name is y'all family out i said say his name say his name so we got the generous and when you all when you all are speaking as we're closing.

1:29:01 There's that camera back there. He just flipped on it now. Okay, so we have the George Floyd Justice Police knife that will push on heel thoroughly, and it has the blood of every last student over here. A lot of these ladies fighting for far longer than what we've been fighting. Against that bill last year in 2025. Unfortunately, we lost our Congresswoman, so the bill dies with the Congressmen, with the Congresswoman. We've lost two Congresswoman people. So we are hoping and pushing to reintroduce that bill under this administration and continue to fight for justice. We also want to underserve not-star communities. We provide children, families, kids, twins of care to try and heal their homes. A lot of things that they find, they pay all their bills, they do work, where they, you know, get their checks or whatever, and they pay all the bills, and they still just simply can't sustain.

1:29:48 And so we go in and we educate, and we bring about real resources. People always say, you don't qualify for this reason, or you don't qualify for that reason. And so we raise funds to make sure that we are able to help them do bills, you know, and they do qualify on groundwork. And so that's very important for us. We also have culinary school where we teach you to use finance, so we're seeing intentional how to cook and different things like that, I'd say in the kitchen, we have several programs. Breathe Again, which is a re-entry program. A lot of inmates become a part of that homeless population or peanut dinner system because they give them a one-way ticket when they're released. And we don't know what, some of them don't even know their families, you know, so they become a part of that population.

1:30:31 And so our program, when we get to touch on them, they say, you know, at least try to set them up in the resource that they did not have. First, the technical social security bar and try to help them find the appointment. So we have several programs, those are just a few. I started the Mount Arbor Foundation back in the spring of 2021, where our vision is we advocate for Black boys. Asks, you know, what do you want your foundation to do? And my answer was, I want the first dollar raised to go to individuals that look like Amar in the areas of mental health, dollars in the community, and also in the schools.

1:31:19 We're in our fourth year giving out the Amar Arbery academic scholarship in his high school, the Bronx, Georgia. We have the criteria when they have the right essay about the life of Ahmad and how receiving this scholarship will benefit their families and also they have to be registered to vote. Very, very important. And if they're not registered to vote, they're not eligible. Also, we started a program last year. We get about 45 boys. We take them for a weekend and we could love them. And again, all the boys look like a lot, and that's what really gives me hope to continue to fight.

1:32:04 Also, we have a campaign going in the month of May, on the month of May, on the month he turned 31 on May 8th, that was last Thursday, and also May is the new up month. So we're asking 34 people to give $31. And I'm hoping that that's the choice in this campaign as well. I know a lot of the ladies have talked about the media, you know, taking, basically taking out what it was here at all. And so one of the things that Pelosi did this summer, and I'm extremely proud of, is she went to the University of Southern California and did some media training for those new college graduates that would be entering into society.

1:32:45 To the end zone, your journalists and your reporters and different things like that. And so, you know, helping them to learn how to deal with them and say, I think it's absolutely phenomenal. And as a result, it's going to be a good school and a good school training as well. So I think that's helpful. Family, as you guys know, we're thoroughly into this. So we did start the Tywin Davis Foundation. And I'm proud to say that our lawyer is the president of the foundation. And this helped her to imagine we could get all this grief. But again, we're very, very new to this eternity. So in the future, we have a lot of things that we're planning to do.

1:33:28 And hopefully all of them come to fruition. I think it's fair to say, as you all are still in the mix of everything, like you all are occupied with that right now, right to be settled in. I imagine some more things will come to my day and have a support. And I just want to share, take your time. I mean, it's not much, just take your time. I do have the Breonna Taylor Foundation, and we're also pushing for the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act, which is, again, banned, and no-lock warrants and requiring officers to have their body cam, footage around prior to interacting with anyone in the public and to not turn it off for so long after.

1:34:08 And with the foundation, we've just been helping families generally just having a hard time after the pandemic. And we're helping people go to different training schools because we know that college isn't for everyone. And we do also work with the University of Bilalovu, who does different scholarships for in brown space we have the oscar brand foundation where we offer scholarships to those friends already from high school going into college and in between that they offer. Know your rights presentation because we always tell our youth you know if you are in counterpoint police officer we want you home safe with your mother and father and so we try to provide them the tools to be able to make it home safe and to share with their parents what transpired so that their parents can fight for them versus them trying to be out there fighting for themselves.

1:35:10 Also, as the Ozzy Grant Foundation, we do a couple of things. So with the families, we do what we call a five-step alien herded hearts program, which brings families who have lost their loved ones together to talk about the five stages and grief to learn how we can heal through those stages because we understand that grief is like a roller coaster. Some days you feel one way and the next day you feel another way. And so we try to provide that foundation of healing for the families. Because previously we didn't talk about PTSD a lot. Our young men, a lot of our young men have seen many things that we haven't had an opportunity to see in our lifetime.

1:35:55 So we try to work with them to encourage them to really share their feelings of how they're feeling to help to get them whole and healed. Lastly, one of the things that's introduced to our foundation that connects with our scholarship is the offering our tutoring process for our scholarships. And we also, we have a bridge in our family where my brother has a foundation as well, where he really tries to work with the families. If you don't have media training, if you don't have the long need support, we really try to provide that support to the families to help them navigate through talking with the media, help them navigate through dealing with the court system, helped them navigate through dealing with the communities as well.

1:36:44 And from that, the act of my son was killed, the Osprey Friend Foundation. Food Bell Station was made, which brought awareness to the community. And then we have another documentary out that's on Netflix right now. It's called For Our Children. So we are trying to work with families who may not be in the media, but want to allow there's story to get told um so we're working to collaborate with other families to be able to have books so that they could have a a chapter of work and so we hope to have that complete by next year and i do have a book on hand that is called from uh tracks due to triumph as well basically thank you okay and my daughter's a quick caller the mother of stephan clark she has a healing classes is for all the mothers and she has a book out it's on amazon also for healing with mama clark it's on amazon and also i have a blessed child association and i've worked with mother wives was working with you to live for young kids and my grandkids of all of them was learning how to make your food grow your own great i know it's greens and grow the food because we don't ever know that the stores might not have food anymore, but they'll know how to grow their own food.

1:38:07 And also, I have, I started because Mike West, he was, I have to say. How would I say that? He was the worst. Use is that he was brutally murdered. And yes, so also I have started in the community marching with the king during COVID and everybody couldn't march and stuff. So I started a care band and it's called Blessed Child Association MLK. And so we're doing cars and then the guys don't leave the recycles and stuff. But we have that area. This was our fifth year. Wasn't it our fifth year?

1:38:49 And so, but it's just now, now we're working with the kids and my grandson has a foundation, the Stephon Kroc has, and he has all, I mean, everybody, all the mothers, your sons, your daughters, aunts, grandmothers, cousins, everybody involved up there on the wall and stuff. Videos and all these things for the children when the children come out there and it was i mean it's really nice for mental for mental health as well and also if you don't have the word to go for the youth he has a deep picture that they're taking care of so my and my daughter I am so proud of her, because she, there's a lot of mothers I see for what they go through, but she helped me to get through by the grace of God.

1:39:49 And that was the class that she had, that he just gave awards for the mothers and all of us. And it's a good venture class that helped, you know, to get stronger through the hearts. Yes, everyone who's consistent with us, they are the future. I have an organization called the E-R-I-C, which is my son's name, which stands for Eliminating Racism and Inequality Collective. And what we do, we have like a lot of children that's in the neighborhood who we're trying to keep from Fordham to the ground.

1:40:33 We want them to know that there's more than just guns and games. So we organize, take them out maybe once a month and take them to the city. Let them see plays let them see how there is so many other affluent black people who works down in Manhattan go on to the office and say well look these people they are executives and you could be the same we try to bring out a lot of them have a lot of time and they don't even know it and try to bring it out of them something same something soul Some are good comedians.

1:41:20 There's so much talent that's out there that's just being lost if we don't try to develop it. Also, we give scholarships. I have a fundraiser every September, which is Eric's birthday. And we give scholarships to children that's going to college. But what we do, we don't get the most brightest children. Children that, you know, they raised the soul and they pulled themselves up. And so now we want to recognize them. We want to praise them. Hey, you were failing, but now you pull through and, you know, give them hope and, you know, encourage them, empower them.

1:42:04 So this is what we want to do with the children. Also, how the people in the neighborhood, some people don't, you know, it has proven. A lot of people think, we're in America, and there's still 100 people. And sometimes our boss will say, well, you know, I don't get my food stamps until next week, you know. So we have a freezer where we have chicken, we have canned goods. We give this out to them, you know, to pull them through for the next couple of days until they get their food stamps or whatever. or sometimes we take them to the store and we buy them vegetables and things. In the get. Yes, salmon in the get. That's exactly what we do.

1:42:48 And that's what it sounds like. Everyone in their own way is doing, and the community vice versa in their way. If you all can, give everyone up here a round of applause. Oh my goodness. Was this amazing? We never know if we don't know. And what we don't know, they just brought it to Wilson. And I appreciate you once again. Ms. Jones, can you please tell us about what Trevon Martin's mom has born on?

1:43:35 My sister, Sabrina Fulton, the mother of Trevon Martin, she started a foundation on a trigline seven years ago. And every May, she does an event, a weekend event, that's called the Circle of Others. When I lost the mom back a couple of years ago, I was told immediately, Sabrina has the Circle of Mothers, and you need to get there. It's truly a weekend, a feeling. And most importantly, she brings the mothers who feels the pain that I felt. And that means everything. So it's a very good event. I'm actually getting out on Friday to be a part of that.

1:44:20 Thank you so much. And I asked her to do that because Sabrina was going to be here, but because of her retreat, she couldn't come. And I just want you all to know, so if you thought that this was good, we had this event tonight, the Black Diamond Ball. And we will honor our families, we will honor our community, our people, just bringing the love that Mr. Reggie talked about, just showing the love. So you all come on out and enjoy that evening. I just want to say thank you to Pastor Harold Jones for opening up your doors and allowing us to have this here.

1:45:02 I appreciate that. I just want to say we have other families that's in this audience that have been through something. We have families that have lost their children. Our president of the Memphis chapter lost her son. We have Miss Jay right here. She lost her son. through gun violence we have plenty parents people everybody in here can tell a story so i just say to god for the being the glory because without him we will be in control keep praying keep your head up and. Just say thank you Thank you all so much, Tonya, and that concludes our evening, we have Hester to come up.

1:45:53 Oh, and tonight we have our keynote speaker will be the Reverend Al Sharpton, and he could be here to talk and let everybody know what's going on. I want to also say thank you to our president for the Las Vegas chapter. He's here. He's been here just the second time in the world coming out. So thank you so much, Mr. Bush. And I just want to say good for a while. You know you always have to have a bad ball to do something. And I just want my husband, can you just stand up there? And I just want to say thank you. Because, you know, I couldn't get you by you. I'd say thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you all of us, all of us. But he's always saying, okay, just do what you have to do.

1:46:39 Just do what you're about to do. Say. All right. Okay. Yeah. But we're going to bring the to a close and we have faster right there so we can go. Vinny's doing what we have to do. Thank you. All right. Let's give Dr. Praise of the place. We want to go very quickly. We're going to take pictures to get out. But very quickly, I'm going to think about Dandane's mom and the pressure of just having to go through this and she's getting incapacitated at this point. I believe that that trauma. If we're not careful, we'll take you over the edge. I don't know what I would do if I was in the shoes.

1:47:21 And we have to pray for the gentleman who lost his son and decided to run over a deputy. That's the question. To most wise and holy God, we thank you Lord God for these families. We know that you have to keep the health in your hands. We pray right now that you continue to give them the strength and wisdom to fight this good fight and get into good trouble. I thank you for those who come up to that today, and I pray right now, Father, that we'll be energized to prevent this type of injustice. It is in my mansions, and for Christ, we bring you all your everything. Amen. God bless you. Oh, let's give Ms. Wallace awesome introductions, all of his panelists.