Scooby Scoob's Journey: Overcoming Adversity with Music & Gaming

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Hello and welcome everyone to another episode of The Kickback. I am your host, The Dude.

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Go check them out. They have wonderful food and it's a wonderful family.

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Martin's Chicken and Waffle is telling you you heard it on The Kickback.

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Today is Tuesday, and on Tuesday we have ordinary conversations with extraordinary

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people that do things in their lives.

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Tonight we have another wonderful guest. Dave, how are you doing, my co-host?

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Doing just great, my brother. How was your day? Alone, man. It was a long day.

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I've been on the bus all day long.

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Well, hopefully it was a double Dutch bus. That means you had a good time.

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I wish it was a double dutch bus

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My brother I wish it was I really do

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Because if it was a double dutch bus It would

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have been a party the whole way through And I would

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have enjoyed the party But it unfortunately It

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wasn't the double dutch bus As I

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would have liked it to be It was You know

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hey The bus go round and round Man come

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on now That is the song that everybody body things

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when you talk about a school bus is the wheels on the

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bus man you know what's bus

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drivers we get kind of tired of hearing the wheels on the bus go round and round

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because that is the singing song for driving a school bus man the kids sing

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it don't when you tell adults you drive a school bus they sang the song i mean it is like.

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Yeah, it is universal, but it's one of those things like, come on,

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man. Really? Can we sing something else to me?

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Can we get another song going on besides wheels on the bus?

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Can we do something else besides that?

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I'm going to come up with something. Right. How's your day been?

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Busy, man. Busy. running around trying to get everything set for his trip to Africa.

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It's a lot. Yeah. You got, what, seven days left for tax season?

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Oh, for the vaccines? No. Tax season. Oh, tax season. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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I thought I was done, but I'm not. Not yet. Really?

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Yep, still got one more I got one and a half to do Okay, okay I know you've

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been working on it a lot Now when's the trip to Africa?

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June 20 June 16th and June 22nd We'd be back on the 23rd Okay,

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okay Alrighty, hello Mr. Scoob, how are you today?

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Happy Tuesday Happy Tuesday, Mr. Goose. How are we doing?

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You're doing wonderful. How about you? I'm pretty smooth. Can y'all hear me

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well? Do I need to get my AirPods?

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No, we can hear you really well. Okay.

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I just got done cooking for the family.

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Man, look at you, cooking for the family. You are, you're the man.

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All righty so welcome to the kickback and

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i tell all my guests my the

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kickback is like a mullet we going we're

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going to handle the business on the front end and then we're on

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the back end we're going to have a little fun and

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what i mean by that is i asked you a few questions you know

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just nothing too personal anything like

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that i usually just ask i ask every every

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guest the same few questions and just

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it's just to kind of get to know you on a more personal level

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although we're going to do we're going to dive into your

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life and we're going to talk about who

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you are where you come from and what made

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you the man you are today so i need a introduction to my audience name where

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you're from what you do and where you're going all right So I am CJ Stewart, a.k.a.

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Big Scooby Scoob, a.k.a. Just Snubbin'.

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I'm from Decatur, Georgia. I currently live in Nashville, Tennessee, and I am a music artist.

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I am a streamer slash gamer, content creator, and that's pretty much my job.

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I don't have to work anymore. I used to be in the army and develop the autoimmune

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disease while I was in the military called scleroderma, along with rheumatoid

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arthritis in my hands, knees, and shoulders.

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I have eight fingers. That's where the just nubbing came from.

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I can't straighten them.

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I have the tip of my left thumb amputated. I have the tip of my right index finger amputated.

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And that's pretty much my daily that I deal with. It's a struggle bus, but we're still here.

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We're still making it. And where I'm going, I'm on the road to greatness.

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I think I'm one of God's favorite. And I'm just making sure I keep my head high

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and keep my faith higher and just making sure I have consistent guidance and

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making sure I'm persistent with where I'm headed and making sure I'm becoming

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the man I was destined to be and so forth.

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I am the middle child of five siblings.

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I have one older brother, an older sister, and two younger sisters.

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Both my parents were in my life growing up. Shout out to my mom and my pops.

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And I was always a very open-minded kid, very prospective, optimistic kid.

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I always saw the best in everybody that I've ever interacted with,

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and that's just kind of transpired me into who I am today on just being well-rounded.

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I'm really, really big on balance, and I'm really big on energy,

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really big on love, but I'm also really big on self.

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I'm also trying to, I don't say preach, but I speak life into people to let

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them see that trouble don't last always.

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And neither do gloomy skies because the sun definitely has to come out and shine

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at some point. Wonderful, wonderful.

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That is amazing to hear you say that because a lot of people don't speak life into other people.

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And a lot of, you know, we deal with a lot of nowadays it's introverts or people are all about self.

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People are all about what I can get from the next person, how I can benefit from the situation,

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how I can get whatever it is that I'm trying to get and move on past it.

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Now, let's talk about growing up.

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Did you grow up in Decatur, Georgia? Did you grow up in Nashville, Tennessee?

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I grew up, I would say both. I grew up in Decatur.

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I moved to Tennessee, I want to say, going into my freshman year.

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And we moved because my pops had congestive heart failure at the time.

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And the doctors in Georgia wanted, I believe, $16,000 per dialysis treatment.

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But then there was a doctor up here in Nashville that would do his dialysis for free.

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And so we made the move. I did not want to move up here at first because I was

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going from predominantly melanated to predominantly Caucasian.

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And so it was like a cultural change, but then like a super big eye opener for me.

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I felt like at a critical time in my life because I was like coming from eighth

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grade going into high school.

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So it was like a whole new setup of like finding friends, kind of finding myself.

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And I'm still this shy kid, you know, felt ugly. I mean, I kind of was ugly.

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And it was it was it was it was very new. It was very, very, very new.

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But I was kind of like looked at peacemaker in the family, you know, like that joy bringer.

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So kind of just had to put the team on my back.

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With that moving up here. I still miss Georgia. I kind of wish I would have

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finished school in Georgia, but I'll always think back and reflect on how my

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life would be if I would have stayed in Georgia.

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I don't know what changes career-wise I would want to do or what opportunities

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I would have had staying in Georgia.

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Okay. So here's the thing. You moved, that is very,

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that is one of the most profound times

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in a teenager's life going from eighth

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grade to ninth grade because you're going from one world to a totally different

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world because middle school is the middle ground where you try to figure out

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your crew your clique who you are you know all those different things and go into high school,

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and then you sort of become, whether you're an outsider or a nerd or a jock or just a hang around,

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the dynamics are so different.

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So you got to Nashville.

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You said you moved to the majority of Caucasian. What part of Nashville did

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you move to? I moved to Mount Juliet.

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Oh, so you didn't move to Nashville. You moved to Mount Juliet. Right.

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You moved to the outer realm of Nashville.

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Correct. That's what I would say. Yeah. Yeah. It is the outer realm of Nashville.

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It's like you would know Mount Julia almost like a suburb.

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You know, it fits.

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You can drive down. You can drive from Antioch to Mount Julia.

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You can drive the back roads from Antioch to Mount Julian,

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Hobson Pike I believe yes yes yes Hobson Pike you can drive Hobson Pike all

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the way through to Mount Julian right so let's get down to some brass tacks

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military how long were you in the military I was in for.

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I want to say I went in,

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It was like a year and a half, I want to say. Yeah, because I went in,

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yeah, I went in like around 13.

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Yeah, because my mom's birthday was around the time I went to boot camp.

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It was going on, it was going on too.

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But at the time, when I signed my contract, it was three years.

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I know they were doing four, but then I did somehow was able to get blessed with three.

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But I didn't finish out because of the illness that occurred.

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Okay. And what was your job in the military?

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I was a 12th Bravo combat engineer. We kind of cleared the path,

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cleared the way. I worked with a lot of infantry guys.

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I got to work with some Marines down in South Carolina.

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Got to work with some Air Force people, some Navy, but not too much Navy,

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but the ones that kind of did like the groundwork in the Navy.

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I got to work real close with them.

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I met some cool cats in the military.

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Some I didn't meet. Some people thought they were G.I. Joe.

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Right. So how did the military, coming from Georgia, moving to Nashville,

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how did the military shape you?

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Because that's a whole new world. because you've already transitioned between

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two different worlds, and now you're going into a whole other world of the military.

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How did that shape you? Because you said you felt ugly, you felt awkward,

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because you were moving into a whole different space.

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What did the military do to help shape you into the man you are today?

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Okay, so coming from a strict parent household, I was already pretty much geared for the yelling.

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I was pretty much geared for the physicality nature.

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My pops used to have me do calf raises and pushups because I was involved in

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sports. So it was something I had to do every night.

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The yelling, my pops was real hard on me growing up. So that part,

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that part didn't faze me.

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So it was more so the discipline, like maintaining and understanding discipline

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on how, you know, doing the things you don't want to do, but you need to,

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just the outcome of that discipline.

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Having that skill, because I think maintaining discipline is a skill,

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because it's very, very easy to slip.

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And I believe, so the discipline, the camaraderie of the sisterhood,

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the brotherhood, I believe also my mindset was a little bit different.

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It was very much clear. I was getting good sleep. I was early in the morning.

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I was active. So my mind, I believe the military has sharpened my mind really good.

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I won't say the physical because I mean, I've always had I've always had that.

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But the discipline, my mindset on just how to be ambitious and how to want more.

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I would say that that that that traveled with me a long way and respect,

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respect of yourself, because it's it gets lonely.

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You know, when you're when you're in the military, when I very first got in

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the military, I didn't know nobody. I was like 19 years old.

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So coming from, and I wanted to get out of Tennessee bad, and I don't want my

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parents to have to pay for college or anything.

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So that's another reason why I joined the military is to travel and see the world.

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But the discipline and the mindset on being sharp and maintaining that respect

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for myself and distinguishing like pride and distinguishing my ego and how to

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separate the two and just maintain myself.

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I believe that's what really I've really held on to since being in the military.

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So I know I'm about to jump backwards, but in what you just said,

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I have to jump backwards.

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So what was it like growing up in your household with your dad being the man

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he was with the calisthenics, with the yelling, with all those things?

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I know every household isn't great and I know

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every household isn't just that bad but how

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was it growing up in the house with all your siblings

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and your dad being who he was

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as a person and how did that affect you self-esteem my pops was very charismatic

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you know easily liked but could definitely be easily disliked because he was very real,

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and transparent, not so much empathetic, but I saw how, you know,

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people treated him, you know, but that was like on the outside.

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But then on the inside, you know, I had to deal with the, you know,

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growing into a young man and him trying to teach me to be a young man.

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So it was challenging at times.

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I really didn't quite overstand certain things, certain structure.

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I didn't get to go to... I didn't really get to do much in school.

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I had to ask to do everything.

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I get it now with them,

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protecting me, quote unquote, from the world. But I didn't get to experience

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these things in the world until a later age.

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But with him being hard on me, I could deal with another grown man,

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you know, talking crazy to me, to my face.

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I could deal with, you know, another man not being in tune with his emotions.

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I could deal with pretty much just, I could deal with men and just knowing,

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And, you know, a tough guy from a lame guy, from a lame guy to a weak guy,

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that just helped distinguish me into like my own platform, into like my own self.

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Because like I tell myself, like, I didn't want to be like my pops,

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but I did like certain characteristic traits that my pops had.

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But everybody does have the good and the bad with that.

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And I would say I just wish like my pops really wasn't like emotional,

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you know. I don't really have that emotional connection with my pops.

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And I really still don't to this day.

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And so it was just more so like I'm more upfront. And so I just pretty much

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just gravitated to what I saw.

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And so I just saw like, oh, well, I'm not a sugar coater.

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So now I'm just very transparent and I'm very honest. But I had to learn some

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things to like with that, I had to step back and understand. mindfulness.

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I had to understand thoughtfulness. So it was challenging.

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It was challenging. For me, it was very challenging.

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I'm not going to take away the love my pops had for me and whatnot.

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I just had to grow into things to really just see why my pops was the way he was.

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But I now know that like he was dealing with certain things.

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And I believe my parents' generation didn't really deal with their pain.

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I believe they just projected like the pain without them noticing that they were doing so.

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So you talked about not being able to do things.

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So most children that are not able to do anything, when they become adults, they tend to wow out.

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Did you go through a wowing out stage oh yes

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indeed yes indeed

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but nothing yes yeah yeah went to jail i made a promise and said i wouldn't

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be that kid that would go but yeah i yeah i had i had a while out stage kind

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of while stage how long did it take for you to get that wild hair out of you,

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We're in 2025, I say, when I got my first amputation. So I say like around 2017.

00:19:16.850 --> 00:19:23.130
2017. Okay. So you went through a while in that stage because your parents were

00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:27.270
very overprotective and didn't want you to be out here in the world.

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Now, as an adult, looking back and as a parent, what are you going to do differently

00:19:33.990 --> 00:19:42.530
for your child or maybe children, being that you were the child that your parents raised you to be?

00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:49.550
I am going to be more present with my daughter and future kids.

00:19:49.750 --> 00:19:54.750
I believe that is something that I was missing growing up.

00:19:55.150 --> 00:19:59.730
I didn't really feel comfortable talking to my parents about what I had going

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on in life. They're very judgmental.

00:20:03.790 --> 00:20:12.030
And I believe I'm going to let my kids experience some things when I feel is

00:20:12.030 --> 00:20:13.550
appropriate for them to do.

00:20:13.790 --> 00:20:18.550
I'm not going to shelter them from the world.

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But I do want to create an outlet for my kids so that they can know that daddy

00:20:27.110 --> 00:20:29.430
lived a life. Daddy knows some things.

00:20:29.770 --> 00:20:37.330
I want them to know that their structure, a good, loving structure when it comes to me.

00:20:37.590 --> 00:20:44.070
So I believe that's what I would most definitely do different.

00:20:44.330 --> 00:20:47.670
I definitely challenged him a little bit more.

00:20:47.890 --> 00:20:52.530
I challenged him more than I was challenged and whatnot. because I really wasn't

00:20:52.530 --> 00:20:55.730
challenged when I moved, when we moved to Tennessee.

00:20:56.010 --> 00:20:59.690
It was just, I couldn't bring home a C. But I mean, I was already studious.

00:20:59.930 --> 00:21:03.350
I love reading books. And I mean, I just love doing my schoolwork.

00:21:03.630 --> 00:21:07.010
I did whatever I could to make my parents happy. I'll tell me just go to school

00:21:07.010 --> 00:21:09.570
and get A's and B's and that's it.

00:21:09.790 --> 00:21:12.890
Like, okay. I was never like that bad, bad kid.

00:21:13.090 --> 00:21:19.430
Like I just wanted to play the game, read my books, go outside and yeah, just play my sports.

00:21:19.610 --> 00:21:22.550
I wish they would have been on to me more about playing, you know,

00:21:23.090 --> 00:21:26.250
sports that I really wanted to play. But once I got in high school,

00:21:27.363 --> 00:21:29.543
I wanted to just play sports, so I didn't have to go home.

00:21:31.643 --> 00:21:35.143
Well, I mean, that's the reality for a lot of children nowadays,

00:21:35.143 --> 00:21:39.023
is that the home is not refuge.

00:21:39.563 --> 00:21:44.803
Going to school is a refuge. And I drive a school bus, so I totally understand

00:21:44.803 --> 00:21:52.063
what you're saying, because I'm with children every day from kindergarten all the way to 12th grade.

00:21:52.183 --> 00:21:56.563
I'm with children every day, and you can see the ones who enjoy going to school

00:21:56.563 --> 00:22:01.083
versus the ones who enjoy going home, and school becomes a refuge.

00:22:01.523 --> 00:22:05.703
And I don't think it should be that way.

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I mean, school is a tool for learning, but it shouldn't be a refuge for what's

00:22:11.143 --> 00:22:12.643
going on inside the house.

00:22:12.843 --> 00:22:19.763
Now, you talked about going into the military and getting audio immune diseases

00:22:19.763 --> 00:22:23.823
and having to have amputations done to your hand.

00:22:23.823 --> 00:22:32.723
How did that affect your self-esteem as a man, having parts of your hand amputated?

00:22:33.723 --> 00:22:43.023
I had to understand grieving. I had to really deal with the experience of loss.

00:22:43.443 --> 00:22:46.723
My confidence was at an all-time low.

00:22:47.343 --> 00:22:49.143
I felt like I was dying.

00:22:49.823 --> 00:22:53.143
The doctors didn't know what was going on with me at the time.

00:22:53.823 --> 00:22:59.783
So self-esteem wise, I was in a dark, dark hole.

00:23:00.003 --> 00:23:03.003
I didn't feel like there wasn't anything nobody could do.

00:23:03.423 --> 00:23:12.443
And then when I tried to gain the assistance from the VA, they were trying to

00:23:12.443 --> 00:23:14.663
tell me that it didn't occur before.

00:23:15.057 --> 00:23:20.137
While I was in service, but that's where Mr. David came in. And I really feel

00:23:20.137 --> 00:23:21.917
like God puts people in your life for a reason.

00:23:22.317 --> 00:23:27.637
And I remember I was at my doctor's appointment one day and Mr.

00:23:27.757 --> 00:23:29.897
David walked past me, real good energy.

00:23:30.337 --> 00:23:33.397
And then he was just like, how you doing, brother? I was like, I'm doing all right.

00:23:33.657 --> 00:23:36.757
And then he was just like, you a man? I said, yeah. And he said,

00:23:36.797 --> 00:23:40.057
you a little too young. So he gave me his card and I held onto it for months.

00:23:40.617 --> 00:23:44.037
I didn't know how to call him. I didn't know how to reach out to him to let

00:23:44.037 --> 00:23:47.157
him know, hey, I'm not in a good place.

00:23:47.277 --> 00:23:51.837
I'm feeling not well and whatnot.

00:23:51.997 --> 00:23:57.437
And I'm a young man. I'm a young man and having to deal with young people looking at me.

00:23:57.577 --> 00:24:01.697
I got my nephew asking me, hey, Uncle Scooby, when is your fingers going to

00:24:01.697 --> 00:24:04.337
grow back? And it was very disheartening.

00:24:04.477 --> 00:24:10.437
It was a very disheartening phase in my life where I was numb,

00:24:10.797 --> 00:24:12.537
so numb that I felt empty.

00:24:12.857 --> 00:24:16.577
And then that was with the first amputation. And then it happened again.

00:24:17.217 --> 00:24:23.177
And when it happened again, that's when I had to really just buckle down and

00:24:23.177 --> 00:24:25.657
just accept it. I had to accept it.

00:24:25.997 --> 00:24:31.697
Things weren't going to get better. And so it was an all-time low for me,

00:24:31.877 --> 00:24:35.477
self-esteem-wise, with dealing with the amputations.

00:24:35.477 --> 00:24:41.857
For me being so young and not knowing what was going on within my body and had

00:24:41.857 --> 00:24:45.877
me regretting going to the darn military because if I never would have went,

00:24:46.117 --> 00:24:50.937
I would have been okay because the cold weather, I was just exposed to cold weather.

00:24:50.937 --> 00:24:55.157
Okay so that that

00:24:55.157 --> 00:24:58.277
is something major in in anybody's life

00:24:58.277 --> 00:25:01.237
having to have limbs amputated or

00:25:01.237 --> 00:25:07.557
whatever it may be and finding out that you have this particular set of illnesses

00:25:07.557 --> 00:25:17.117
okay so you said you were a musician and you also were a gamer when which one

00:25:17.117 --> 00:25:19.877
came first and how did you Get into.

00:25:21.134 --> 00:25:27.594
Either one of them. Okay, so gaming was first because I just found a good passion.

00:25:28.574 --> 00:25:31.974
The music came in high school.

00:25:32.694 --> 00:25:36.534
You know, I would just, you know, I would listen to music, listen to a friend's iPod.

00:25:36.754 --> 00:25:40.274
I had good music knowledge and riding with my pops growing up,

00:25:40.454 --> 00:25:42.554
you know, it was just different styles of music.

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But then, you know, I would, you know, just kind of kid around in class,

00:25:45.994 --> 00:25:48.434
you know, get the pencil, make a little beat on the desk and,

00:25:48.594 --> 00:25:51.354
you know, people would be like, oh, that was good, but you know,

00:25:51.594 --> 00:25:52.454
didn't play it in my mind.

00:25:53.214 --> 00:25:56.954
Fast forward to my first year being out the military in 2015,

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I was with a buddy and he had a buddy.

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They came to the house and they happened to be from Louisiana.

00:26:06.354 --> 00:26:09.614
And I was, I think I was freestyling on like a little Boosie instrumental.

00:26:09.794 --> 00:26:15.454
Set it off is what it was. And not knowing this guy had connections in the music industry.

00:26:15.934 --> 00:26:22.474
And he sat me down and he was like, man, I could turn you into a star if you're really serious.

00:26:22.854 --> 00:26:24.794
And so that's how that got started.

00:26:26.274 --> 00:26:29.294
I didn't come up with big Scooby Scoo off rip.

00:26:29.674 --> 00:26:33.934
At first it was C to the J. And when I was in the studio, my buddy that was

00:26:33.934 --> 00:26:37.234
doing music, his manager was just like, I'm going to be real with you. That's very lame.

00:26:38.774 --> 00:26:42.534
So I just got, I sat in on, I was like, okay, then it was young Scooby.

00:26:42.994 --> 00:26:46.214
And then that was lame because I just felt like that was very stereotypical.

00:26:47.094 --> 00:26:50.494
And then I was just like, okay, what about like Scooby-Scoo,

00:26:50.754 --> 00:26:51.774
you know, like Scooby-Doo?

00:26:51.934 --> 00:26:54.274
And then they were just like, okay, why would you call yourself that?

00:26:54.434 --> 00:26:57.214
Well, I'm a Gemini and, you know, with the Gemini, you know,

00:26:57.314 --> 00:26:58.894
I got the, you know, split personality.

00:26:59.154 --> 00:27:02.914
So, you know, Scooby, you know, that's your real chill, real smooth type guy.

00:27:03.154 --> 00:27:07.434
But Scoo, you know, that's my, you know, that's my more turnt up side,

00:27:07.634 --> 00:27:11.274
you know, my more reggae side, that more not flashy, but like,

00:27:11.414 --> 00:27:13.434
I want you to feel me side. And then.

00:27:14.652 --> 00:27:19.612
2020, when COVID hit, I kept saying that everything was big.

00:27:19.932 --> 00:27:24.112
Everything was major with a little bit of flavor. And so I transitioned to big

00:27:24.112 --> 00:27:29.732
Scooby Scoo because I felt like I was growing up into something bigger than myself.

00:27:29.992 --> 00:27:36.132
So that's where big Scooby Scoo came in. The just snubbing, that just came from having the nubs.

00:27:36.452 --> 00:27:39.872
And that came from, yeah,

00:27:39.952 --> 00:27:44.772
I would just say I'm just nubbing around you know just jokingly that's

00:27:44.772 --> 00:27:48.672
a good phrase that's a good and so i

00:27:48.672 --> 00:27:51.452
got to thinking i was just like hold on at first it

00:27:51.452 --> 00:27:56.032
was like got nubs i got nubs and i was just like nah but then i was just like

00:27:56.032 --> 00:27:59.312
hold on i like the just nothing you know and then when i tell the back story

00:27:59.312 --> 00:28:04.112
people be like oh but they kind of both came came hand in hand but as far as

00:28:04.112 --> 00:28:08.352
names and like generation wise like big scooby scooby came first with the music

00:28:08.352 --> 00:28:10.952
because that's something i I was just pursuing,

00:28:11.212 --> 00:28:14.392
but I really just wanted to do music because I really got tired of the music

00:28:14.392 --> 00:28:16.252
that was coming out. It was kind of trash.

00:28:16.972 --> 00:28:20.032
And it still is. It is, it is.

00:28:20.372 --> 00:28:26.412
It still is. So with that, with your music career, how far did you go in music?

00:28:27.292 --> 00:28:32.032
Oh, we're still going. I dropped an album. My engineer, honestly,

00:28:32.272 --> 00:28:33.592
he's the one that really pushed me.

00:28:33.772 --> 00:28:36.532
He sat me down when I did the studio, and he was just like, man,

00:28:37.347 --> 00:28:40.647
You need to do something with these songs instead of just, because I was just

00:28:40.647 --> 00:28:42.307
going to the studio just to release.

00:28:43.407 --> 00:28:49.147
But listening to the songs, I was just like, hold on, these sound really, really good.

00:28:49.267 --> 00:28:51.447
And my little sister, she does music too.

00:28:51.807 --> 00:28:55.907
And we put her on a song. It's called Get It. It's a very, very,

00:28:55.987 --> 00:28:57.067
very, very, very good song.

00:28:57.427 --> 00:29:02.047
Very good song. Very soulful. Very inspirational. Talk about my illness and whatnot.

00:29:03.407 --> 00:29:08.167
And yeah, I came to the, I'm always about a vibe. you know, and I'm always about

00:29:08.167 --> 00:29:10.867
going to places when I listen to music.

00:29:11.227 --> 00:29:16.707
And I came up with the name Vibe Town. I had this hat that said Vibe Town and it just stuck with me.

00:29:17.067 --> 00:29:24.427
And then when I put Vibe Town into a vision, I wanted Vibe Town to be a place like a utopia.

00:29:24.747 --> 00:29:27.587
Like when you cut my music on, I want you to be able to just,

00:29:27.727 --> 00:29:32.807
you know, be yourself, but also be able to like tune in and vibe with me.

00:29:33.047 --> 00:29:34.967
So dropped Vibetown in 2023.

00:29:36.107 --> 00:29:40.707
And I took a year off because I started going through some things mentally.

00:29:41.287 --> 00:29:47.727
I was in a real bad, depressed state with my life because I felt like I just

00:29:47.727 --> 00:29:48.547
didn't have any direction.

00:29:48.727 --> 00:29:52.287
Like, yeah, I dropped the album and that felt good, but I didn't do anything

00:29:52.287 --> 00:29:55.867
else after that. So I took the year off and got myself right.

00:29:56.067 --> 00:30:00.307
I went on a couple fast, built a really good relationship with God,

00:30:00.507 --> 00:30:06.787
like really, really, really like understanding how to talk with God and how to talk to God.

00:30:07.007 --> 00:30:13.147
And once I got that, we fast forward to now, you know, I have a new project

00:30:13.147 --> 00:30:16.167
that I've come working on. It's called Melanated Excellence.

00:30:16.887 --> 00:30:23.987
And I have a couple singles that I have that I'm about to get in the process of getting finished.

00:30:24.627 --> 00:30:30.427
And then I also have my Just Snubbing YouTube channel that I have, that's going up.

00:30:30.567 --> 00:30:33.807
Well, that's already up, but with the big Scooby School with the music,

00:30:34.247 --> 00:30:37.187
yeah, that's never going to stop. We're still transcending.

00:30:37.387 --> 00:30:41.407
I told myself I'm a millionaire, and I just got to find a way to get my millions.

00:30:42.547 --> 00:30:44.067
I hear you. I hear you.

00:30:46.167 --> 00:30:50.847
Real quick, we're going to play just a snippet of getting it.

00:30:51.647 --> 00:30:52.927
Oh, that's good. That's dope.

00:30:53.887 --> 00:30:55.987
I believe my mom just joined. What's up, my Dukes?

00:30:57.327 --> 00:31:04.867
Get me vibe time sounds like a really good album I'm going to have to,

00:31:05.947 --> 00:31:11.647
listen to the whole thing because I love music that is just a good vibe I love

00:31:11.647 --> 00:31:16.707
music that's a good vibe I love people that's a good vibe I love just,

00:31:17.747 --> 00:31:23.787
being in the presence of people that have really good vibes and you seem like

00:31:23.787 --> 00:31:27.567
a brother that has a really a good vibe, but here's a question.

00:31:28.567 --> 00:31:33.047
Being your father was who he was. How did he accept the fact that you were going

00:31:33.047 --> 00:31:34.027
into the music business?

00:31:35.133 --> 00:31:39.493
He told me just, you know, you know, go do me. You know, he told me that it's

00:31:39.493 --> 00:31:40.993
in my it's in my bloodline.

00:31:41.873 --> 00:31:47.853
And, you know, he told me just don't half ass it if I'm going to do it. He told me to do it.

00:31:48.993 --> 00:31:53.833
And I don't believe I look back. I haven't looked back after after I dropped the album.

00:31:53.993 --> 00:31:57.373
I haven't I haven't really looked back, especially once I received the feedback

00:31:57.373 --> 00:32:03.753
on what I received from dropping the album, because everybody was waiting on the music.

00:32:03.753 --> 00:32:08.733
And then once I finally put together 10 songs of flavor, that's,

00:32:09.033 --> 00:32:15.193
yeah, he, he liked, he liked, he liked, he liked what I, definitely what I cooked up.

00:32:15.973 --> 00:32:18.733
Okay i mean you know because

00:32:18.733 --> 00:32:22.473
it's a hard sale with very strict

00:32:22.473 --> 00:32:25.573
parents on things like the like the industry

00:32:25.573 --> 00:32:28.973
it's always a hard sale it's a

00:32:28.973 --> 00:32:31.993
hard sale because you know they're so used to the mindset of

00:32:31.993 --> 00:32:34.873
you get up you go to work you pay your bills you come home

00:32:34.873 --> 00:32:38.453
you get up you go to work you pay your bills and come home because that's

00:32:38.453 --> 00:32:41.253
what they were so used to doing and that

00:32:41.253 --> 00:32:44.753
was the mindset that was drilled into them and

00:32:44.753 --> 00:32:47.753
the ideal of being in

00:32:47.753 --> 00:32:50.973
the industry was so far-fetched because

00:32:50.973 --> 00:32:54.373
the mindset that they had they didn't

00:32:54.373 --> 00:32:57.173
want their kids involved in it because you know hollywood is

00:32:57.173 --> 00:33:00.893
hollywood and the industry music it's

00:33:00.893 --> 00:33:04.113
so riddled with just stories

00:33:04.113 --> 00:33:07.053
of disaster you know but there

00:33:07.053 --> 00:33:11.533
are success stories there are success stories but it's so riddled with stories

00:33:11.533 --> 00:33:19.973
of disaster and for every 10 rappers you know three of them make it so I mean

00:33:19.973 --> 00:33:26.433
it's a hard industry to go into now you said music we talked about your music gaming.

00:33:27.533 --> 00:33:32.113
I've heard gaming plays pretty good are you at the level A?

00:33:32.753 --> 00:33:41.673
I'm a Twitch affiliate so So a little bit, not top dollar, how some of these streamers are.

00:33:41.833 --> 00:33:44.233
I'm just working with what I got.

00:33:44.473 --> 00:33:54.753
So in working with what I got, I was able to maintain achieving being a Twitch

00:33:54.753 --> 00:33:57.433
affiliate on the platform Twitch.

00:33:57.433 --> 00:34:06.773
So I do get a little something each month But nowhere near of where I'm going to receive Once I,

00:34:06.993 --> 00:34:10.453
because I'm streaming from my console right now So I'm only,

00:34:10.573 --> 00:34:13.593
I'm working with like, I call my setup ghetto.

00:34:14.753 --> 00:34:22.253
And so, but I also call it humble beginnings as well So I'm only able to do,

00:34:22.393 --> 00:34:27.673
my access to doing certain things is not nowhere near of what it will be once

00:34:27.673 --> 00:34:30.593
I get an actual PC. And so...

00:34:31.514 --> 00:34:36.894
Yeah, I get a little something-something, but not, like I said, not to where I want it.

00:34:37.114 --> 00:34:41.434
Once everything starts compiling and the puzzle pieces get put together,

00:34:41.774 --> 00:34:46.554
then we can come back and have this talk for sure.

00:34:46.934 --> 00:34:53.634
For sure. But see, here's what I see with a lot of people is we tend to downplay our achievement.

00:34:53.634 --> 00:34:56.734
You know how many people are out here trying

00:34:56.734 --> 00:35:00.074
to get a little something something from doing

00:35:00.074 --> 00:35:05.854
exactly what you're doing that means that you've gotten to a level of excellence

00:35:05.854 --> 00:35:11.714
in what you're doing and i'd like to say man that's wonderful that you have

00:35:11.714 --> 00:35:17.474
achieved that fame your album The artwork looks amazing.

00:35:17.874 --> 00:35:24.894
The sound quality sounds amazing. So you've achieved a lot of things in your

00:35:24.894 --> 00:35:33.694
life and you have overcome the adversities of having your hands amputated, not hands,

00:35:33.874 --> 00:35:35.594
but the tip of your fingers amputated,

00:35:36.014 --> 00:35:41.894
going through what you went through thinking that you were going to die being in a dark moment.

00:35:42.174 --> 00:35:47.134
Pat yourself on the back every day that you are a wonderful man and a great father.

00:35:47.894 --> 00:35:53.394
I appreciate that. I do. I do. I do give myself, I give myself grace,

00:35:54.034 --> 00:35:55.554
give myself a lot of gratitude.

00:35:55.954 --> 00:36:00.174
But, you know, I have a support system, you know, too.

00:36:00.354 --> 00:36:05.034
So I want to, you know, give them a pat on the back because,

00:36:05.234 --> 00:36:15.014
you know, without my support system and disagreements and everything, I wouldn't be here.

00:36:15.094 --> 00:36:20.174
I wouldn't be driven to do what I want to do.

00:36:20.394 --> 00:36:26.334
And I'm just doing what I love. I feel like with my life and how it's set up,

00:36:26.414 --> 00:36:30.294
I'll be feeling like a bum because I can't work. But.

00:36:31.290 --> 00:36:38.270
You know, at the same time, you know, I have an opportunity to do what most people cannot.

00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:41.670
And I just tell myself, you know, it's just no more excuses.

00:36:41.870 --> 00:36:47.130
You know, I feel like I have a really great God-given ability that's bestowed

00:36:47.130 --> 00:36:50.230
in me when it comes to my voice. Like, it's like no other.

00:36:50.390 --> 00:36:55.050
It's like no other. Like, people, you hear me on a song and you be like, you sure that's you?

00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:58.130
Because it sounds like somebody completely different. But then when I play the

00:36:58.130 --> 00:37:02.150
game, you know, people are, you know, they're really amazed,

00:37:02.270 --> 00:37:04.770
you know, that I think like, well, are you really doing this with eight fingers?

00:37:04.890 --> 00:37:10.130
You know, I tell them, you know, we just nubbing around, you know, and I take that.

00:37:10.330 --> 00:37:16.210
I'm not really a prideful person anymore, but I do take pride in having a skill

00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:19.290
set that is really peculiar to myself.

00:37:21.330 --> 00:37:25.990
That's why I tell people I interview ordinary people doing extraordinary things.

00:37:25.990 --> 00:37:29.430
There are people out here with 10 fingers and 10 toes,

00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:35.310
and they have not and will not accomplish as much as you have because they see

00:37:35.310 --> 00:37:41.010
themselves in certain lights or they have to have certain things in order to

00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:43.310
accomplish goals in life.

00:37:43.310 --> 00:37:52.230
And you are working with your God-given talent and with what this world gave you,

00:37:52.330 --> 00:37:58.330
because God didn't give you the disease that you have, and God didn't say that

00:37:58.330 --> 00:38:00.290
you needed your appendages cut off,

00:38:00.430 --> 00:38:02.810
but along the way,

00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:05.610
something happened, and it had to be you.

00:38:05.650 --> 00:38:10.950
And he gave you the talent that he gave you, and he gave you the skill set so

00:38:10.950 --> 00:38:15.470
you could show the next person as you said at the beginning that what you're

00:38:15.470 --> 00:38:20.570
going through right now is not going to be forever oh yeah.

00:38:21.720 --> 00:38:27.280
So a lot of people don't understand that what they have is so,

00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:36.000
so much of a blessing that we look past what God has given us to create our path that,

00:38:36.580 --> 00:38:38.620
oh, I'm fat. Oh, I'm skinny.

00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.860
Oh, I'm not strong enough. Oh, I don't have the right equipment. that I don't have this.

00:38:44.040 --> 00:38:46.080
And they use these things as

00:38:46.080 --> 00:38:54.240
excuses and bumps in the road not to pursue their dream or their purpose.

00:38:55.160 --> 00:39:03.420
Yeah, I agree 100%. I think your father being the man that he was helped drive you to greatness.

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:07.440
Yeah, you don't call it greatness. You humble yourself or whatever,

00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:13.240
But you could have taken this situation and you could have said, woe is me,

00:39:13.700 --> 00:39:21.760
pity me, and turned it into a dark place where you became very angry and agitated

00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.260
because it happened to you.

00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.520
Because a lot of people turn these things into, oh God, why did you do this to me?

00:39:28.720 --> 00:39:36.920
And they internalize it and then shoot it out at the world and just are horrible people.

00:39:38.300 --> 00:39:42.540
Oh, yeah. Yeah, my pops definitely helped solidify some things for me,

00:39:42.640 --> 00:39:48.280
especially with him dealing with what he deals with on a daily with his,

00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.860
you know, with his physical needs.

00:39:52.391 --> 00:39:56.151
I would say, wear and tear, you know, from being sick and just having to go

00:39:56.151 --> 00:39:59.691
through the things that he had to go through and still, you know,

00:39:59.871 --> 00:40:05.631
wake up every day and find ways to help my Mardukes and, you know, provide.

00:40:05.631 --> 00:40:10.151
It was very inspiring, you know, to see.

00:40:10.431 --> 00:40:17.311
So I learned to take a lot of things on the chin with my with my illness and

00:40:17.311 --> 00:40:22.511
the adversity of, you know, continuously driving and just being strong.

00:40:22.511 --> 00:40:26.391
Because it's all, I know I would tell him, I'm hurting.

00:40:26.631 --> 00:40:29.511
He'd be like, man, it's all in your head. You know, just tell yourself that

00:40:29.511 --> 00:40:31.271
you heal, pray to God that you heal.

00:40:31.591 --> 00:40:34.851
And so like now when I pray, you know, you know, I pray over my health and,

00:40:34.951 --> 00:40:38.411
you know, I say that I'm healed. I just hurt some days because that's the truth.

00:40:38.651 --> 00:40:42.771
So I just, he definitely helped solidify, you know, with, with dealing with,

00:40:43.071 --> 00:40:47.351
you know, certain things and, you know, just how to, how to go about things.

00:40:47.351 --> 00:40:52.431
I've been saying, you know, everybody wants to win, but like nobody knows how to lose.

00:40:53.791 --> 00:40:56.731
That's a great one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:40:57.191 --> 00:41:02.611
And so and with that, that's why I say like I've dealing with loss is helped me.

00:41:02.931 --> 00:41:07.071
It's helped me experience on how to lose. And, you know, it's just you got a

00:41:07.071 --> 00:41:08.911
lot more to gain than you have to lose.

00:41:09.111 --> 00:41:12.131
So, you know, I still got breath in my body, so I still got life.

00:41:12.131 --> 00:41:13.691
And that's something I'm a forever cherish.

00:41:14.051 --> 00:41:18.751
And while I do, I'm going to just try to maintain and just be the best person

00:41:18.751 --> 00:41:20.571
I, you know, I can possibly be.

00:41:20.791 --> 00:41:25.911
You know, I know it's not a I'm not going for perfection because we're, you know, imperfect.

00:41:26.291 --> 00:41:29.291
But I definitely just go, you know, I like to strive.

00:41:29.571 --> 00:41:33.331
I want to thrive. And I'm definitely going to survive at the end of the day

00:41:33.331 --> 00:41:36.591
because, you know, I just keep I keep my head focused.

00:41:36.591 --> 00:41:42.751
I keep this mindset sharp I'm a very ambitious young man And I just I don't

00:41:42.751 --> 00:41:49.091
let I used to let what I go through Stop me I really did It really would put

00:41:49.091 --> 00:41:51.011
a stump in it But then I was just like Nah.

00:41:52.076 --> 00:41:56.816
I'm tall for a reason. I got seeds that need to be blossomed and grown into.

00:41:57.076 --> 00:42:00.956
And I just felt like the world just needed to see. There's so many people that's

00:42:00.956 --> 00:42:05.896
disabled and so many people that just have low self-esteem, low confidence.

00:42:05.896 --> 00:42:09.296
That's where the YouTube channel is going to come in for just nubbing.

00:42:09.496 --> 00:42:12.256
So people can just see, I'm just your average, ordinary dude,

00:42:12.436 --> 00:42:15.056
just like y'all that just got a little different passion.

00:42:15.756 --> 00:42:20.856
And then that's where the music comes in too. So it's just different ways for

00:42:20.856 --> 00:42:23.136
me to outreach and touch people.

00:42:23.296 --> 00:42:28.096
I feel like with the youth, it's just, it's crazy, crazy to see.

00:42:28.356 --> 00:42:31.636
You know, like I was talking to some young guys at the gym. I was like,

00:42:31.676 --> 00:42:33.876
who's your role model? They were just like, started laughing.

00:42:34.096 --> 00:42:36.596
They were just like, you know, I don't have one.

00:42:37.336 --> 00:42:40.636
But then one of the guys came back and talked to me.

00:42:40.756 --> 00:42:43.296
They like asked for my Instagram and he was just like, I've never been asked

00:42:43.296 --> 00:42:47.496
that question, you know, not even by my dad. And I was just like, well, dang.

00:42:48.136 --> 00:42:57.196
And so that stuck with me because as a man, we're the leaders, we teach.

00:42:57.336 --> 00:42:59.736
So it's just like, nobody's teaching.

00:43:00.376 --> 00:43:04.916
It's just lustful desires. Everybody just caring about how they look,

00:43:05.076 --> 00:43:08.016
but they ugly on the inside. And so I just.

00:43:08.947 --> 00:43:14.567
Didn't sit well with me. So I was just like, nah, maybe I need to switch up

00:43:14.567 --> 00:43:17.167
my direction and my narrative on how I want to do my music.

00:43:17.467 --> 00:43:19.867
So like I said, it's bigger than me.

00:43:20.607 --> 00:43:24.607
And with it being bigger than me, I just wanted to find that outreach,

00:43:24.787 --> 00:43:27.827
what was best for me for the world.

00:43:27.987 --> 00:43:30.947
I've been saying for a long time that I'm what the world been missing.

00:43:31.187 --> 00:43:35.827
And I'm going to definitely stick behind that statement and really just showcase why.

00:43:36.507 --> 00:43:39.467
Man, I get it. And everything thing you said is true.

00:43:39.687 --> 00:43:45.287
I got some things working on in the background that I'm trying to develop just

00:43:45.287 --> 00:43:47.127
for the reason of what you just said.

00:43:47.567 --> 00:43:54.007
A lot of these young boys don't have a man who asks them certain questions and

00:43:54.007 --> 00:43:55.667
do certain things with them.

00:43:55.787 --> 00:43:57.927
So I'm trying to develop a program.

00:43:58.867 --> 00:44:02.287
I'm just going to simply give it that, but I'm working on a few things in the

00:44:02.287 --> 00:44:07.567
background for young men in schools because I drive a school bus.

00:44:07.747 --> 00:44:10.427
So I see these young men every day and I noticed that they don't,

00:44:10.547 --> 00:44:16.107
some of them don't have male role models, but I want to go back to something

00:44:16.107 --> 00:44:20.627
that's been going in my heart while we've been having this conversation.

00:44:22.047 --> 00:44:26.707
You've talked about your tops throughout the whole conversation,

00:44:26.707 --> 00:44:30.967
but I have yet to hear you talk about the queen in your life,

00:44:30.967 --> 00:44:34.467
your mother and the impact that she had on your life?

00:44:35.167 --> 00:44:38.527
Well, sometimes you got to save the best for last.

00:44:39.547 --> 00:44:50.727
My mom is very, very, very, very, very, very, very sophisticated, hardworking,

00:44:51.427 --> 00:44:55.807
very much goal-oriented, and she's a boss.

00:44:56.067 --> 00:45:06.187
So her structure definitely is different from my pop structure because she pays

00:45:06.187 --> 00:45:13.147
attention to the things you don't think gets paid attention to. you know.

00:45:13.647 --> 00:45:20.867
So with my mom, her guidance and her advice wasn't hard.

00:45:21.067 --> 00:45:24.207
It was still like very nurturing, very, very nurturing.

00:45:24.407 --> 00:45:29.267
But she also like, it's the look that my mom gives with her eyes.

00:45:29.307 --> 00:45:33.047
And my mom has very, very pretty brown eyes. And I love eyes.

00:45:33.187 --> 00:45:38.347
It's like one of my favorite traits on the human body or features.

00:45:38.607 --> 00:45:44.887
And the look she gives, it's a very piercing look of the determination.

00:45:45.527 --> 00:45:49.747
The motivation and dedication that she sees, not only in herself,

00:45:49.747 --> 00:45:52.407
but like in me and whatnot.

00:45:52.887 --> 00:46:01.327
And she just helps solidify a couple things with me on just maintaining structure

00:46:01.327 --> 00:46:04.907
in my life because she knows that when I'm in my life, I'm in my

00:46:05.184 --> 00:46:09.724
life is going to get hard. One of the quotes my parents used to tell me,

00:46:09.804 --> 00:46:15.684
mainly my mom, is life, excuse my language, going to chew your ass and spit you out.

00:46:15.824 --> 00:46:20.584
And I never understood what that meant until I experienced it.

00:46:20.804 --> 00:46:26.924
But one thing I can say about her, despite going to jail, despite being MIA,

00:46:27.504 --> 00:46:33.764
despite going ghost from my family, she's always been there when I needed her

00:46:33.764 --> 00:46:38.084
the most of, you know, when I was going through something.

00:46:38.304 --> 00:46:42.484
I'll never forget when I moved back home, when I had my amputation,

00:46:42.584 --> 00:46:44.224
I just broke down crying in front of their door.

00:46:44.324 --> 00:46:46.784
And she was like, well, you know what's wrong? I was like, I feel like I'm dying.

00:46:46.924 --> 00:46:50.624
And she was just like, no, you know, God got you here for a reason.

00:46:51.464 --> 00:46:56.424
You need to sit your ass down and pay attention to what you need to do.

00:46:56.764 --> 00:47:01.144
You're not focused. And so with my mom, she really just helped,

00:47:01.144 --> 00:47:06.084
you know, see the best version in me to just let me see that everything in that glitter and gold.

00:47:06.744 --> 00:47:10.304
Sometimes you want a cookie, but you don't even need to be in a cookie jar.

00:47:10.424 --> 00:47:14.864
You need to be focused on what's best for you. You need to be focused on the future.

00:47:15.084 --> 00:47:18.504
You need to be focused on what you can do for yourself.

00:47:18.804 --> 00:47:23.724
And seeing her do that with her everyday life, you know, it just made me just

00:47:23.724 --> 00:47:24.924
want to work, work, work, work, work.

00:47:25.184 --> 00:47:28.304
You know, like, just put them, just put this work in, just put this work in

00:47:28.304 --> 00:47:33.824
because she always says like, nobody going to do it for you.

00:47:33.984 --> 00:47:35.784
Like you have to do it yourself.

00:47:36.324 --> 00:47:41.144
Somebody has to see that you're doing something for yourself to be able to obtain

00:47:41.144 --> 00:47:44.164
the ability to even network with somebody.

00:47:44.524 --> 00:47:55.804
So with my mom, it's a forever bond, forever grateful love that I could never really put into words.

00:47:56.044 --> 00:48:00.984
It's just, I just know she's just top-notch and low-key the best and...

00:48:02.286 --> 00:48:05.646
She just, she's great. Like, she's great. Like, not perfect.

00:48:05.886 --> 00:48:10.266
You know, like, my parents are not perfect. I definitely did not agree with

00:48:10.266 --> 00:48:14.826
their structure, but I definitely know that they looked out for their kids.

00:48:15.006 --> 00:48:18.666
And like, that's one thing I can definitely say they looked out for me.

00:48:18.766 --> 00:48:21.766
They've always been supportive of anything that I wanted to do.

00:48:22.126 --> 00:48:25.606
They've always been supportive of like, how I'm feeling.

00:48:25.866 --> 00:48:30.306
Like, I let them know like, hey, I'm going to go MIA for a little bit.

00:48:30.426 --> 00:48:32.506
And my mom would just be like, that's cool.

00:48:32.966 --> 00:48:36.626
We'll be here when you come back to your senses or wherever,

00:48:36.646 --> 00:48:38.826
you know, God leading you, like we here.

00:48:39.046 --> 00:48:42.566
And so the, I like that you said queen,

00:48:42.826 --> 00:48:47.466
because, you know, like that is view her, you know, I view her as a queen and

00:48:47.466 --> 00:48:53.366
I just, I love her like very much, you know, like now I used to like not give

00:48:53.366 --> 00:48:57.426
my parents like affection a lot, like as I was growing up.

00:48:57.606 --> 00:49:01.606
But now when I see her, I just squeeze her and I feel good.

00:49:02.786 --> 00:49:09.686
I naturally feel good to been able to just get just a little bit of that spirit in me,

00:49:09.806 --> 00:49:13.486
even though I know it'll always be in me, but it's just always good to just

00:49:13.486 --> 00:49:18.626
be able to have that flesh and be able to have that counterpart and whatnot.

00:49:19.026 --> 00:49:22.826
And so I know when my parents are gone,

00:49:23.506 --> 00:49:30.666
a part of me will be missing, but a part of me will also have some molding to

00:49:30.666 --> 00:49:36.946
it because I now realize the structure on how they were doing things with,

00:49:37.126 --> 00:49:39.266
I call it strict, but really.

00:49:40.455 --> 00:49:45.195
It was like my parents were like kind of if test to really just see if you're

00:49:45.195 --> 00:49:47.635
paying attention, if you're listening and whatnot.

00:49:47.955 --> 00:49:51.735
And, you know, they let us they let us they let us do our thing and they let us make our mistakes.

00:49:52.035 --> 00:49:56.355
But I know with me making my mistakes, my parents, they were always harder on

00:49:56.355 --> 00:50:02.615
me with my mistakes because like they knew they knew I was like I was going

00:50:02.615 --> 00:50:03.775
to do something great in life.

00:50:03.995 --> 00:50:07.895
So my mom just really just like she just paid attention to me.

00:50:07.895 --> 00:50:11.775
Like she really paid attention like to

00:50:11.775 --> 00:50:14.795
like how I was like she paid attention to like

00:50:14.795 --> 00:50:17.655
what I liked like to the very minuscule little

00:50:17.655 --> 00:50:20.455
thing it could be oh you know

00:50:20.455 --> 00:50:24.355
I like I like this color now you know or she has and she'll go get something

00:50:24.355 --> 00:50:27.935
you know worth the color or you know I'll be like you know I'm really into books

00:50:27.935 --> 00:50:33.595
now so you know she'll get me a book around the holidays so it's just It's the

00:50:33.595 --> 00:50:38.715
attentiveness with my mom that I will forever cherish.

00:50:39.635 --> 00:50:46.235
Man, shouts out to all the beautiful queens out here, man. Shouts out to all the beautiful queens.

00:50:47.295 --> 00:50:54.675
What would you tell? Because we're coming to the end of the show. So what would you tell?

00:50:55.495 --> 00:51:00.755
What would you go back and tell your younger self from your perspective right

00:51:00.755 --> 00:51:02.615
now? Now, what would you tell your younger self?

00:51:03.215 --> 00:51:05.975
What age? Sixteen.

00:51:07.174 --> 00:51:14.474
At 16, if I could go back and tell my younger self at 16, I would tell my younger

00:51:14.474 --> 00:51:17.834
self, I still would go to the military, but I would go to the Air Force.

00:51:17.994 --> 00:51:20.714
I would tell my younger self, go to the Air Force, study hard,

00:51:20.914 --> 00:51:23.674
go to the Air Force, make a career.

00:51:23.674 --> 00:51:26.454
And my mindset, I would

00:51:26.454 --> 00:51:31.554
definitely tell my younger self to get really serious about establishing that

00:51:31.554 --> 00:51:40.974
relationship with God because that's really how things will get taken far for

00:51:40.974 --> 00:51:45.054
myself in life if I could go back and tell my younger self.

00:51:47.114 --> 00:51:51.654
That would just be the main two key points because I really could touch on a

00:51:51.654 --> 00:51:55.314
lot, but since it's coming to the end, And I would definitely go back and tell myself,

00:51:55.494 --> 00:52:00.754
go to the Air Force and switch up my mindset on, you know, being present in

00:52:00.754 --> 00:52:02.274
the moment, but also looking ahead.

00:52:02.474 --> 00:52:06.714
Like I'm always I would tell myself, you know, think outside the box while looking in.

00:52:07.514 --> 00:52:12.094
Right. OK, so that's what you would tell your younger self.

00:52:12.414 --> 00:52:18.454
What is your message to the world right now? Hello, I said.

00:52:18.994 --> 00:52:24.114
My message to the world is trouble don't last always.

00:52:24.924 --> 00:52:27.154
You gotta fall to get up.

00:52:27.974 --> 00:52:35.934
Don't stay down, but learn how to lay down. Learn how to breathe. Learn how to be you.

00:52:36.824 --> 00:52:40.174
Learn how to speak. Learn how to respect.

00:52:41.284 --> 00:52:45.114
Learn how to love. Accept cherishment.

00:52:45.514 --> 00:52:53.334
Learn how I said. to embrace, and most importantly, keep your head high, keep your faith higher.

00:52:54.454 --> 00:52:58.454
Man, that is beautiful. That is beautiful and so inspirational.

00:52:58.794 --> 00:53:03.714
Man, I love the fact that at your age,

00:53:03.794 --> 00:53:15.534
you have such a great dialect and you can hold a conversation without the jargon, without the rhetoric,

00:53:15.854 --> 00:53:17.874
without the slang.

00:53:18.294 --> 00:53:23.134
Yeah, we use a few slang terms here and there, but having a conversation with

00:53:23.134 --> 00:53:29.274
a millennial, some of them are just, the conversations are way to the left.

00:53:29.514 --> 00:53:35.654
So I appreciate having this conversation with a man of your stature.

00:53:35.774 --> 00:53:41.274
And like I said, Here at the kickback, we interview ordinary people doing extraordinary

00:53:41.274 --> 00:53:47.054
things, and we appreciate you for coming on the kickback and giving your story.

00:53:47.434 --> 00:53:51.514
Now, let's go to the question. Are you ready?

00:53:52.354 --> 00:53:56.594
Okay, let's go. If I got in your car right now, what would you be listening to?

00:53:57.902 --> 00:54:02.022
I would ask you, what do you like to listen to? Because I listen to a lot of

00:54:02.022 --> 00:54:04.462
instrumentals. So I probably would freestyle and wow you.

00:54:09.122 --> 00:54:12.662
All right. All right. That's the first one. That's the first one.

00:54:12.982 --> 00:54:17.782
All right. So what is Scoob's sweet indulgence?

00:54:17.962 --> 00:54:23.002
What is the sweet treat that you got to have?

00:54:24.062 --> 00:54:32.062
Like food or just essentials? No, just like you, you didn't have dinner.

00:54:32.482 --> 00:54:36.642
You just chilling. Oh, I want an oatmeal cake or I want a popsicle.

00:54:36.922 --> 00:54:40.982
I want a Snickers bar. What is your sweet? What is your sweet indulgence?

00:54:41.522 --> 00:54:47.962
I would have to go a fried Oreo with some Neapolitan ice cream.

00:54:48.722 --> 00:54:54.202
Oh, that is a first one. A fried Oreo with Neapolitan ice cream.

00:54:54.442 --> 00:54:58.982
Sounds good. Never tried it, but it sounds good.

00:54:59.522 --> 00:55:03.162
You got to try the golden, the golden Oreo, not the, not the chocolate.

00:55:03.742 --> 00:55:05.502
Deep fried golden Oreo?

00:55:06.082 --> 00:55:10.722
Oh yes. Or fried honey bun. One of those two. Okay. Where are you getting these

00:55:10.722 --> 00:55:12.282
things at in Nashville, Tennessee?

00:55:13.262 --> 00:55:18.222
I just, I don't know. I just looked up how to make batter.

00:55:19.842 --> 00:55:25.282
You're doing it yourself at home. Oh, yeah. You just get the Oreo and then you

00:55:25.282 --> 00:55:27.682
make the batter and get some oil.

00:55:27.902 --> 00:55:32.882
Let that oil heat up and literally be done in minutes. All righty.

00:55:34.582 --> 00:55:40.562
Describe your perfect boo. Boo like woman? Yes.

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Chill. A little caliente. That's a little spicy.

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Sense of humor. You don't got to be funny, but have a sense of humor because

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I'm funny. I'm a jokester.

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I don't really care about physiques. I'm a breast man.

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I like a little tootie booty, but I'm more so pay attention to your mind.

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Pretty eyes, got to have pretty eyes.

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I got to have that. I got to get lost when I look.

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Hair, I don't really care about the hair. I don't really care about ethnicities. I'm pretty diverse.

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I'm very picky when it comes to the sisters though, because I'm just very picky. I'm picky with them.

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But I would say I got to get to know them on that level because I feel like

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when it comes to such a physicality structure, we can hit the jam if you don't like how you look.

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So I'm all about building. I always tell the homies y'all can have the tens

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give me a five i'll build her into a ten and barn machine.

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So yeah don't nobody want no ten

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because most of they breath stain man and they don't have any morals they don't

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but see i was having this discussion the other day with my wife and we were

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talking about how the richest and the finest people in the world have the absolute lowest self-esteem.

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Oh, yeah. They're just not happy. They got the money, but it's the principles on certain things.

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I always say doctors could not hang around.

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They wouldn't be able to hang around regular people just because,

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they would feel less than because of their terminology, more so or definitely on the terminology.

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But I feel with people, they're so not addicted to money.

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They say the money is the root of all evil, but I definitely beg to differ.

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I believe it's the person with the money and their intentions.

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I'm all about being pure with intent.

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So yeah, people with money, they definitely have the low self-esteem.

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You know, because they got they have it. But then it's just like, OK, like what now?

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You know, you can go buy whatever you want. And then, you know,

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you don't feel good at the end of the day.

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Right. In the comments, it says money can buy money can't buy you love.

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It can help you rent it.

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But but that's that ain't real. Oh, 100 percent. Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, man, listen, here's the kickback. We want to say thank you for being transparent

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with your conversation about your life and who you are.

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As I do every show, I invite guests to come on our Friday night show.

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We do a two hour show. You've been there before. That's how we got you here

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to this point because of my co-host. Shouts out to my co-host, Dave.

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Man, I love that dude. He is amazing. but you are also an amazing young man

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and I want you to know that you are extraordinary in your life because like

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I said before you could have taken what happened to you and you could have been the meanest,

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horriblest person in the world but your vibe and your energy is amazing and

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I love you young brother.

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Appreciate that likewise man I love you more.

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I want to say I appreciate an opportunity with you and Mr. David.

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Honestly, without Mr. David, I would not be here today.

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Truly. And yeah, you guys, you guys, you guys got something good going on with

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the, with the podcast and whatnot. I do like that you guys do that on Fridays.

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And I want to say you guys continue doing what you're doing.

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Is he playing anywhere soon? No time soon on shows. I have an opportunity in

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August to perform at a festival, but that's still up in the works.

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Right now, I'm just focusing on some new music and getting some YouTube videos

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out for my Just Another Instagram.

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I get my wisdom teeth out on Monday. If you guys could keep me in your prayers,

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I get all four of them out.

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I got to go under anesthesia. But once I get that done and recovered,

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I'll be back full-fledged on my Scooby Scoob ride.

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I hear you, Scooby Scoob, my man. Hey, again, we appreciate you,

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and you have a great night, and we'll catch you on the next go-round.

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All right, appreciate that. All righty.

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Music.