A Journey of Faith and Resilience with Albert Porterfield

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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to an episode of The Kickback.

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I am your host, The Dude, and we'd like to welcome you to Topic Tuesday.

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Today, if you did not see, we have a fantastic brother in the room by the name of Albert Porterfield.

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He is a renowned author, and he's got a few books under his belt.

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Again, we'd like to welcome you to the kickback. I am your host, the dude.

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Today, of course, with me, my roadie, my sidekick, my homie,

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my dog, David Van Cleaves is in the builders.

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He is always here with us. What's going on today?

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Blessings, my brother. Blessings on blessings. Blessings on blessings on blessings. That is wonderful.

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And I'm always glad to hear about blessings on blessings. But today we have

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renowned author Albert Porterfield.

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He is called the dude from the pew.

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He's written a couple of books along the years.

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He has a great catalog, you know, a view from the dude in the pew.

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The unexpected happen, and his latest release in the book world is in the midst of it all.

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It's a journey on life and how God takes us and navigates us through life and

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how he crafts things for us and shows us where we need to be and where we need to go.

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If you don't know, we are from Nashville, Tennessee, the big city with a small

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town feel, and Albert Porterfield has graced us with his presence here in Nashville.

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So let's welcome to the show Mr. Albert Porterfield.

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Hello, sir. How are you doing, sir?

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Yeah, I'm doing good. Doing good, dude. And Mr. David Ang Lee.

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All righty. Praise the Lord, my brother. Good to hear your voice.

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Good to hear your voice. And how are you doing today, sir?

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Oh, you know, it's like 100 degrees out here today, so.

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Just a little Just a little hot Just a little Hey but that's wonderful Though

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you know at least you're here To be able to enjoy it,

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Exactly. All right. So like I said today, we're here to talk about your catalog

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and how you got to the place of writing these books.

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First, let's introduce let's give our audience a bit of background on you,

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where you're from, where you grow up and things of that nature.

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Just give us a brief summary of who Albert Porterfield is. Well,

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I actually, I grew up in Montgomery, Alabama, and that's about 50, 50-some years.

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And how I got to Nashville is I actually married a woman that actually is from Nashville.

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I was attending my niece's wedding, and she was the wedding coordinator.

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Started talking. It was just a regular old conversation. And one thing led to

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another. Next thing I know, I love my life.

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I come to Nashville now. That's basically how that happened. I got to Nashville.

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But talking about the books itself, back in 2010, I had a regular job, you know, nine to five.

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I was also a referee. It was football, basketball, baseball.

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Yeah, I just decided, you know, I said, Lord, I want to know more about you.

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What does it take to be? What do I have to do?

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I hear his voice say, It's up to you to find out about me If you really want

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to know about me So I started reading about me More and more and more But I

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noticed A few weeks went by,

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a few months went by And there was really no change,

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And all of a sudden Came on one day and I turned the TV on Started watching

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the TV All of a sudden I heard this little nudge say So who did you say You

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wanted to get to know Me or your TV,

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you know I had actually made the TV by God

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because I put that TV before God I watched TV and then just about the end of

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that end of the day I didn't flood my Bible if you didn't fall asleep of course

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I realized you know something I really want to know who God is and moves things

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out of the way so I can pay attention to,

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What I said I wanted to do. I said I wanted to know God.

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All of a sudden, I started reading more. And I started sending me things in

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my head. I'm like, there's a lot of stuff you're sending.

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Basically, he was saying, well, write it down because you know you can't remember it all.

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I said, okay. I got to thinking, I'm like, Lord, I really don't like writing. So there's a silence.

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But he kept pouring. So my curiosity got the best of me. If I really want to

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know this stuff, I need to start writing them down.

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All of a sudden, I start writing down things and writing down things.

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All of a sudden, I go to work and I feel poor and I'm like, hold on now.

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I'm driving. I'm a delivery guy. I can't write down this stuff.

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Basically, you've got to find

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a way. So I had to pull to the side of the road and start writing down.

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Every time there was a stop sign or a red light, I'd start writing down what was coming to my head.

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I have a few stacks of of pads here, of stuff I just wrote down.

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Let me put this stuff on the computer. Make it look neater.

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As I was putting it on the computer, I noticed, I said, you know something?

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All this stuff I wrote down, all these pads here, it was just for that one occasion,

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but as I started putting it on the computer, I noticed that this stuff on this

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pad, this goes with what I wrote back here.

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This goes with that. next P&L, it's like, man, it looks like a story.

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That's when I realized, you know what I'm saying? I need to start putting this down here.

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I didn't really think about books because I've never written a book.

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I didn't know anybody that wrote a book. But what do you do?

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God basically said, the same way you found out about me, you found out.

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You thought I asked a question.

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That's basically what the, I didn't know what the name of the book was going

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to be until I went to church that day.

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And I looked back and I noticed, I said, man, we did some dudes in the period.

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That's how the first book came about. A dude in the period.

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Well, that is wonderful. You know what I'm saying? Man, so at the church you

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were going to, so what you're saying is there were not a lot of men at the church

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at the time, and that's how you came up with the name Dude in a Pew?

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Exactly. I think there were one or two guys.

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As I turned back, there were one or two guys sitting in the back,

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and I was like, man, there's some dudes in there.

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And it just kept coming back, Dudes in a Pew. And I thought about it.

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It was a Pew by Dudes in a Pew.

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Wow. And I'm not, wasn't really a writer. I see myself as a writer.

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But God says, yes, you are.

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And you wrote down what I gave to you.

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Okay. So basically what he was saying was, you just follow my dad.

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Yeah, you're going to ask questions, but just follow my dad. Do not complain.

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Do not do all that murmuring. And as I read, I'm like, you know,

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a lot of these stories, like the one I was just saying, following this guy,

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it's just like Moses in the Red Seas. He just followed.

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I didn't give him any details telling him, you know, this is what's going to

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happen because God's not the kind of person that's going to give you details.

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He's going to say, just Just go here, go there. And just take out to the Red Feet.

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What I do not do, that's what he want us all to do. Ask the question.

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Come to him. He wants us to come to him first instead of just complaining and murmuring.

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Hey, that is that's amazing. And a lot of people don't get that particular message

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when they're seeking God.

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You know, there's always murmuring. There's always questioning.

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There's always those things.

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So what you're saying is when you ask God to show you, you just kind of you went along with it.

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Now, what is your what is your background when it comes to church?

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When you were younger? Was your parents very religious?

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How did we get to dude in a pew before?

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I understand that from a writer's sense, but were you always a guy in the church?

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I'd say that because my mom, she was always in church.

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She knew the Bible real well, but she was a real quiet.

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She didn't say much, but when she did, Everybody would listen.

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My dad, he's from the street. So he's got that street knowledge.

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And street knowledge comes with watching other people.

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One thing my dad said, one thing about people, is that people,

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they'll do the same things over and over and over.

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Still, something is said or something really hurts them, that's when they'll make a change.

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So I took that as observing people they'll do the same things over and over

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what he said was people are creatures of habit that's what he said yeah people

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are always creatures of habit,

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but once they do it again they'll do it one time they'll do it again and he

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retired as a correctional officer for 30 years so he had a lot of people to

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watch all throughout those years old.

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Okay, so what did your mother, you said your mother was a very smart person,

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so what did she do for a living?

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She had a high school education, but she worked for the Medicaid department

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for 30 years, and she retired as a state employee.

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It's not like we weren't super big in the church. It's just that,

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you know, it's time to go to church. We went to church. It's a Baptist church.

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Being in a Baptist church is different from being in the apostolic church.

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Found that when I came here.

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Okay. I mean, yeah, I'm still, you know, still learning about the apostolic

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because I come from Baptist also.

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So yes, there is a difference between the two,

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but I don't feel like there's very much of a difference to me because I guess

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I'm just still trying to get there and get a better understanding of what makes

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the difference in different.

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Places is what I'll say, different places. Dave, can you better explain the

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difference between apostolic and Baptist?

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I'm still like I said, I'm still trying to figure it out.

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Well, I would say some of the differences with the apostolic ministry,

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we baptize in the name of Jesus.

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Jesus, whereas some Baptist churches I've been to, they baptize in the name

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of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

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Also, there are some minor procedural differences, but I think that's probably

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some of the main, that's probably the biggest difference between the two.

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Hold on, let me see if I can. Yes, sir.

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So Albert Dude in a pew Give us a little bit of an insight On what Because I

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couldn't Get a copy of dude in a pew So,

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The dude in a pew was you Going to church one day And you figured out that the

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church needed More men in the church So take us on a short Trip on the journey Dude in a pew.

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There are a lot of Rhyme like coins in there, and it it keeps your interest.

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I would pay that much it makes you It's a thoughtful thought provoked than anything else.

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Okay. First of all, I didn't know anything about publishing a book or anything,

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so I found someone else to publish the book and sort of put it together.

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Okay. All right. I was thinking, man, this is a process.

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Yeah. But my next book, I published it.

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And your next book would be The Unexpected Happened. The Unexpected, yeah.

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Okay. Give us a little insight

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On the unexpected happened You know

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I wrote that book Right during Right During

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the pandemic I was on time And it was cancelled So I had a lot of time on my

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hands So I had to do something like You know something A story I've been working

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on Here and there I need to go ahead and start putting this together Because what happened was,

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One day as I was coming back to my mom's folks house, and the strangest thing

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happened. I was about 11 o'clock at night.

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I was coming up the street, and a car came flying around the corner. And it barely missed me.

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But it missed me. It went around the corner, and it hit the curb,

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and it ended up hitting the pole.

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All of a sudden, it started smoking. So I got out. I had my little truck in.

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I got out of the truck, and I'm like, man, let's make sure everybody's all right.

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All of a sudden, guys start giving out. They stumble out. One on the left side, one on the right side.

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First thing comes to my mouth, man. Those guys.

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And down the passenger side, I ran over, he stumbled over to me and said,

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he said, man, can you take us around the corner?

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I was right on. I said, man, I can't take you around the corner.

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I mean, this is basically an accident because you ran over the mailbox,

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and now your car is stuck here.

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And as I said that, I looked at the other guy.

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He was just reaching in the back of his car. and I could see the silhouette as he put a like a,

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some like a blanket over a shotgun I could see that I was like okay he starts

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pulling it out and the first thing that came to my mind was I'm going to change

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what I'm saying I'll tell you what,

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I'm going to go ahead and this is your lucky day I'm going to go ahead and take you guys on so,

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the guy here hey man come on come on take control of the corner so he pulls

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the gun around with him and the guy that was close to me jumped in the passenger

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side and the other guy jumped in the back of the truck.

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So I took them basically around the street to another neighborhood and dropped

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them off and the guy with the gun got out.

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He got out and he said, hey man, you didn't see nothing.

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I said, see what? Okay, alright, I'll see you later. And.

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Think about out there. You know, as all this was going on, my neighbors that

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I've lived with, I used to stay with them for the longest, they started gathering

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outside. But they saw all this happening.

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And I got to think, man, I got to go back to the scene of the crime because

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I'm sure the policeman would show up and my neighbors are going to say,

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yeah, we know one of the guys.

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So I had to go back to the scene and as I drove back, there was a police there.

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You know, the scene, a lot of people, I woke up, it got quiet.

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I said, is there a police officer there? There was a plainclothes police officer.

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And she walked over and said, yeah.

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You know, I just left the scene. And I'm going to tell you what happened.

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I told them the same scenario. And it seemed like everybody that was there was like, oh, man.

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I thought you were part of them, man. You're giving them a ride away.

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Like, no, I just thought I'd be in the wrong place at the right time.

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But it was going to another scenario of why I actually had the gun. So I'm like, man.

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Yeah. That is wild. You're right. The unexpected happens.

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So with that scenario and all the things that happened, how did that affect or change your life?

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Well, I knew one thing. If I ever have an accident, I'm going to go and roll away.

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Like when you're asking me questions, I'm going to go on and just call the police

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up. I thought, please, I better go.

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So that's about the whole thing. but 9 times out

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of 10 I'd probably do the exact same thing all over again

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so of course of course basically it was

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all that was the smoke coming up and everything I'm like

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you can't just leave like this right right

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being a good Samaritan you just can't you can't leave them there just you know

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you don't know if someone's hurt you don't know what's going on so you just

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can't leave them there so being a good Samaritan yeah you I'm going to help

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them out. I'm going to see if everyone's okay.

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I'm going to make sure everybody's alright.

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Never expected all of that. Right. Never expected that to happen.

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So, I mean, that's a pretty good story to hear about. It goes on.

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Okay, well, give us a little bit more. It goes on. Actually,

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I didn't have to tell them who it was, the driver, because he left his driver's license in the car,

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So I can go ahead and tell who it was. So, yeah, so she showed me this driver's

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license. But, yeah, that was him. He was the driver. And I told him exactly what happened.

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He said, who are you telling? So they were, they thought I was in the booth with them.

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I didn't go exactly that way. So I started telling them.

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We started getting that look like, okay, now we're more relieved about hearing

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what actually happened.

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And I did, I made sure when I was telling them, telling the author that,

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that I spoke up loudly so the people around me could actually hear because they are my neighbors.

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So you didn't want anyone to think that you were involved in whatever criminal

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activities were happening at the moment.

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Yep. All they saw was a guy with a gun get out and he said, hey,

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what's the point of you doing? And he's driving away?

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That's why I had to go back. land. Totally understand.

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Totally understand the reason why you had to go back because you didn't want

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to be implicated in any crimes or any things of that nature and didn't want

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to be seen as some sort of criminal element.

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Now, that is from The Unexpected Happens.

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So after publishing that book, How did God speak to you?

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Because you said in the first book, Dude from a Pew,

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God was pouring all of these things into you and you were having to write them

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down and you had all these, you know, notes and you had all these different

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notepads and all these things around you.

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When the unexpected happened, what did God pour into you from that particular situation?

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Situation well, that would say or they I,

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What could have happened? I could have done this. I could have done that.

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I got the thing. Yeah, I could have done that. Well, let me write this stuff down.

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What could have happened? Well, that's basically what that one is.

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It could have gone this way. These things here could have happened.

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You never know what you're going to get into and how you're going to react.

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Right. Just driving down the street through your neighborhood. You know,

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you're just doing whatever it is that you're doing and then

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this is placed up on your lap and now

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it's like uh what do

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i do with this what do i do with this what do i what do i go with this and i

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i totally get it and i understand so in in life we all deal with the unexpected

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happening in certain situations so with your book the the unexpected happening,

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what lessons are you teaching to the people so that they won't particularly

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get themselves in it? Because most books have lessons to them.

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Most books have some sort of theme on where, you know, you should go or what you should do.

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So what's the what is the what do you want people to take from the book once

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they've read it? But on this one, it wasn't really a lesson.

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It was just the thing happened.

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And it was, what do you do? Because in life, things are going to happen.

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And how do you react to it?

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Do you just get up and leave or do you get involved?

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And it takes you on a different journey than you ever expected.

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And in life, God is the same way. He's going to put you in different scenarios.

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And it's like, okay, you said you wanted to know, like I said,

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I wanted to know more about God. Well, let me put you in a situation.

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We'll find out. And my take on that was, no, God doesn't trust you until he

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tests you. Same way with Moses.

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He didn't really trust him until he tested. And in life, we're going to have

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to, we're going to be tested all of our lives to go to that next stage. It says, okay.

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Many times when we get scared, do we do, do we call on God or do we get scared and run?

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Or do we just, you know, I'm getting out of this here.

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I've got a lot better. I'm getting out of it. I'm going to find a way to get

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out of this. I'm not going to stay in this here.

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I'm going to get, Lord, we'll get with you later on. I got to get out of this.

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Or do we call on God and say, God, what do you want me to do on this?

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But there's different scenarios that will come about that will test us.

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How are we going to react? In other words, we're seeing the real person,

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not the person that we want to portray in front of everyone else.

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We get to see where we are in life.

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And then we look back and examine and say, man, I could have done that better.

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I should have did what I always talk about.

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Talk about God. You should depend on him. What did I do? I did.

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I used my own understanding.

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Now I find myself wondering.

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Very true. You're very true, because I tell people all the time,

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testimony is a two part word.

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And God puts all of us through tests in order for us to give our testimonies.

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And a lot of people feel like they don't want to have to go through the test

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in order to give a testimony. But you're right.

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As you said, God puts us through tests before he knows that we are true about

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what we're saying. because you're right.

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Most people, when they get into sticky situations, the first name they holler

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is not, they'll holler, oh Lord, help me.

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But then on the backside of that is, okay, how can I get out of this?

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And they start trying to figure out how they can maneuver their ways out of

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it instead of praying and asking God for a outlet or a resolve to the situation.

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So you're right. You're you're totally right about that.

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And that's great that you had a situation where you were at that fork in the

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road and you decided, okay, God, where do you want me to go?

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Because majority of the people don't come to that conclusion once they get in a situation.

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And I applaud you, my brother, for being the man that you are to go back and

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let the authorities know that you were not a part of the situation.

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You were almost a hostage in the situation because you are honorable man and

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you were trying to do the right thing by giving these gentlemen a ride because

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of whatever the circumstances may be.

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But it could have gotten you in a lot more trouble than what it was worth sometimes

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trying to be the gentleman and be a good person.

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So you were saying when you were introducing yourself that you are a delivery

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driver. How long have you been a delivery driver?

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I worked for this company in, I don't know, which company. Back then, it was like 2008.

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No, no, 2005.

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2005. I worked for this company like 17 years.

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Then I started working for a company up here called Ships.

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So I know my way around. Oh, yeah.

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I'm pretty sure working with a delivery service, Now you know your way around town.

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And you also mentioned that you were a referee.

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How long were you a referee? And give the audience some insights on being a

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referee, the goods, the bads, and the uglies.

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I'm a referee for almost 20 years, until like 19 years to be specific.

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Actually, as you say that, about being a referee, that's one of the things that

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I reference in my most recent book, The Midst of It All. the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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It teaches you many and many lessons.

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By the way, doing this part here says, one of the first lessons I learned as

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an official was the importance of listening and remaining impartial.

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Officiating requires me to observe the game and make fair decisions objectively.

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This skill has translated into my personal life, enabling me to be a better

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listener and approach situations Open mind.

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Every time you learn something in officiating, you can also take it into your regular life.

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Being an official really makes you become strong because you cannot sit up and

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react to everything that happens.

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You can't react to one of the coaches getting upset. He's getting all mad.

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I'm going to tell you it takes a lot of restraints to do that and many people ask the question,

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how do you put up with those coaches always yelling at you back and forth and

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you can't say you don't say anything to them well it's like good practice for

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when I get home my wife just goes yeah yeah yeah and I just go yes dear wait Mike,

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that's there are other things that I've also lifted in here too too, as a professional.

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It is pushed to balance being fair and rational.

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I've learned to assert myself authority while maintaining composure and fairness.

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This balance has been instrumental in my personal and professional relationships,

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allowing me to assert my opinions confidently without astounding the oppression.

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Just take what you've learned and apply it to your life.

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Right. It's like this. God gives us all gifts, but he doesn't give us all the gifts at one time.

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At age eight, you get a gift. At 10, you'll get a gift.

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At 12, you get a gift. But at age eight, you ought to develop that gift because

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you're going to need it when you're at 10.

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You're going to go to that next level, and then you're going to need that gift.

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Develop that. You're always having to develop what God is already giving.

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It's already in you already.

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And the more you get to know God, He'll show you more and more ways To use your

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gift That he has given to you And the only way to really get to know What your

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gift is You gotta ask the gift giver That means you gotta know him,

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Very true Very true Very well spoken and very well said,

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We as people Don't acknowledge Every time we.

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Acknowledge that we have a gift that it comes from God.

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I think at some point we have to, as a people, understand that nothing,

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and I'm not saying there aren't people out here in the world that does not understand

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that nothing you do or nothing that comes to you isn't from God.

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And like, again, I'd like to give

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you your flowers and give me your your your applause to

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understand and recognize the fact that these

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gifts and these scenarios that you have

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been in god has gotten you out of and he put you in a profession to where it

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was also lessons being taught by him that you can understand Understand, hey,

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God taught me this.

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God has showed me this.

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And understand that.

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It's beautiful. So I'd like to say thank you for giving your well, we're not finished yet.

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So we're not going to say just thank you and end it yet because we still got a little time.

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But to reflect and go down the roads and you and you almost answered one of my questions.

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But you just kind of hit on marriage and you were saying being a ref has taught

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you how to communicate a little bit different with your wife because you say the refs and the people.

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Yada yada, the nagging, the emotions that people tend to put into sporting events,

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you've learned to kind of curve in your resolve with God.

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So with your books being written, how has God played a role?

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I know you said you met your wife at a wedding, but how has God played a role

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in your marriage and the lessons that you've learned from the books that you've written?

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How does that coincide and play lay together.

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Well, in my most recent book, In the Newest of It All, there's a story I wrote

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in here about a marriage when I was about 30.

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I married a lady that she, how do you say, whenever she wanted something, she was used to.

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Fighting, physically fighting, corny. When she met me, I'm not the type that, I'm not going to fight.

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The main thing I told her was, hey, look, you're going to have to find a new

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way to fight. That way right there does not work.

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But that did not stop her from continuously trying to do things the way she's always done them.

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So one day she decided to provoke She backed me in the corner and she decided,

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hey, I'm going to get what I want.

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This is the way I get it. I'm going to get it because she used to get it.

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Well, it was one of those situations where she swung and swung and swung and

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I blocked and blocked as much as I could.

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She swung until she got tired.

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When it was all over, I had a lot of scratches. scratches, a neck, back, whatever it is.

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He realized that he could not get me to get out of my stance of, I don't fight that way.

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You don't have to find a new way to fight.

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Well, it gave me the feeling that he was looking at it as arrogant. arrogant, arrogant.

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She said she apologized, but she didn't have the look of remorse on her face.

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It was more of a, I'm going to get you. Sooner or later, I'm going to get you

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to respond where I want you to respond.

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You know something? I did something that I was pretty good at then, listening to God.

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And I'm still good at it now. God says, day is,

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you're not done so what you're going to have to do you're going to do something you have never done,

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you can't you can't do like all other men that's not what i put you here for

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but to stop this problem here you're going to go to the police department wow

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they complained about this,

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your first thing came to my mind before it don't do that and don't go to police

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department fail my wife beat me up well you got to do that.

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So I closed my mouth and I did what God told me to do.

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And I went through the scenario of having to go to the police department,

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get in line, say, I'd like to follow the method of abuse against my wife.

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You know, the craziest thing is that the guy couldn't hear me behind the wall of the glass window.

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So he said, you're going to have to speak up. I can't hear you.

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I had to say that. But there were all those other people there.

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So I had to say it again. I'd like to file a domestic abuse charge.

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It got really quiet in that room.

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In fact, that was kind of a bustle. I'm still in a bustle, but anyway.

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The guy told me to go wait in this room over here. I went in there and he said

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an officer would come by there with a camera.

430
00:35:17,576 --> 00:35:19,176
About five minutes later, one

431
00:35:19,176 --> 00:35:23,756
of the officers he came in there with the camera. He looked and he left.

432
00:35:24,256 --> 00:35:29,096
And I was late he came back in there He looked he said Is that a lady in here

433
00:35:29,096 --> 00:35:33,416
or was she ever in here I said nah but I don't think you're looking For a lady

434
00:35:33,416 --> 00:35:39,556
He looked for someone to Domestic abuse charge he said yeah I said yeah that's me,

435
00:35:40,156 --> 00:35:45,156
He walked up and he looked at it and said I gotta take pictures of it As he

436
00:35:45,156 --> 00:35:49,336
took the pictures man I took The shirt off as he took the pictures He said you

437
00:35:49,336 --> 00:35:52,076
know something These are some really deep.

438
00:35:53,579 --> 00:36:00,899
Need to be upgraded to a song charger then okay they're going up to a song charge man,

439
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:09,939
every time i think about that i had to go through this yep and i actually have to do that,

440
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:16,379
doesn't matter that you can't do like other men he said he didn't make me like

441
00:36:16,379 --> 00:36:18,339
other men he said it may be this way.

442
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,579
And he said, I want you to write it like I said, write it.

443
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:28,459
Because I had never written that. This happened, I think it was back in the 30s. I'm 59 now.

444
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,999
If I had told me, write it, I'm going to give you the details.

445
00:36:33,379 --> 00:36:36,519
And they don't come back to you or remember. It's like it was yesterday.

446
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:46,539
It goes on to some other scenarios that he's like, man, only God could have guided me this way.

447
00:36:47,299 --> 00:36:50,119
And that's what it all comes down to god he's going

448
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,359
to show you he's going to guide you you just have to follow the day

449
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:55,979
i close my mouth and open my ears man that was one of the

450
00:36:55,979 --> 00:36:59,899
best things ever so i wrote uh yeah

451
00:36:59,899 --> 00:37:05,579
thank god hopefully what what i write and what i wrote i want to be passed along

452
00:37:05,579 --> 00:37:09,699
like a farm to someone else to say you know something this is the way i could

453
00:37:09,699 --> 00:37:13,839
out it because this brother he handled it this way because we don't need to

454
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:17,639
take abuse just like Like a woman, she doesn't have to take care of the poor.

455
00:37:17,919 --> 00:37:21,099
But that's all we hear about is women. We don't hear about the man.

456
00:37:22,299 --> 00:37:24,939
But that's just one of the stories that I wrote in the midst of it all.

457
00:37:25,339 --> 00:37:30,179
Hey, listen, man, that is amazing and beautiful.

458
00:37:30,819 --> 00:37:34,319
That is amazing and beautiful to hear a man.

459
00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:39,479
And I can hear the emotions in your voice when you tell that story because it's

460
00:37:39,479 --> 00:37:45,419
there. the wounds, even though it's 20 or 30 years later, those wounds still hurt.

461
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:50,859
And the fact of the matter is, you're right, a lot of men don't get the opportunity

462
00:37:50,859 --> 00:37:55,179
or the chance to tell their stories in that aspect.

463
00:37:55,579 --> 00:37:59,099
And I want everybody in the audience, whoever's hearing this,

464
00:37:59,099 --> 00:38:03,579
I want you to understand that domestic violence is not okay.

465
00:38:03,899 --> 00:38:08,819
Whether it's a man or a woman, we bleed and we We breathe just like you do.

466
00:38:09,019 --> 00:38:12,559
So domestic violence is never okay.

467
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:16,039
My brother, my brother, that is

468
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:23,979
so touching and so moving to hear a man be able to articulate and tell that

469
00:38:23,979 --> 00:38:31,439
story with the amount of emotions and not anger towards women and to understand

470
00:38:31,439 --> 00:38:34,839
the path that you've been on and where you've been at.

471
00:38:34,839 --> 00:38:40,259
And God has brought you through those trials and tribulations.

472
00:38:40,339 --> 00:38:48,179
And as we talked about a few minutes ago, your testimony and to hear you talk

473
00:38:48,179 --> 00:38:49,419
about that and understand.

474
00:38:51,248 --> 00:38:58,108
Mindset that you have to be in in order to make it through the other side of

475
00:38:58,108 --> 00:39:01,868
that, because it was not only abuse,

476
00:39:02,128 --> 00:39:06,948
then it also became sort of embarrassing because like you said,

477
00:39:07,088 --> 00:39:12,328
they had a glass window and you had to speak up and speak through the window

478
00:39:12,328 --> 00:39:17,788
and there were other gentleman behind you, but that was just God moving you

479
00:39:17,788 --> 00:39:22,068
out of the way and him working through you,

480
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:30,088
and through all the bravado and all the male testosterone that you had in you,

481
00:39:30,148 --> 00:39:33,348
because I'm pretty sure in your mind, your mind was like, don't do it.

482
00:39:33,488 --> 00:39:35,468
Don't do it. You're going to look like a sucker.

483
00:39:35,648 --> 00:39:38,528
Don't do it. Don't do it. You're going to look like a punk.

484
00:39:38,708 --> 00:39:43,888
Don't do it. Don't do And you followed God.

485
00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:48,108
You followed what God was telling you.

486
00:39:48,188 --> 00:39:52,708
That is so amazing, my brother, and amazing to hear.

487
00:39:53,508 --> 00:39:57,508
Man, so that is a great story.

488
00:39:58,468 --> 00:40:02,548
So now you're here in Nashville, Tennessee.

489
00:40:03,008 --> 00:40:07,528
What's life like in Nashville, Tennessee versus Alabama?

490
00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:13,628
It's a lot of more well i know it's a

491
00:40:13,628 --> 00:40:17,808
lot of work and it's a lot of it's a lot bigger in that field than it is in

492
00:40:17,808 --> 00:40:22,908
montgomery so i've learned the landscape still learning landscape because it's

493
00:40:22,908 --> 00:40:29,208
like my six times as big as montgomery so it's just familiarity at the same

494
00:40:29,208 --> 00:40:31,008
time finding time to write these stories,

495
00:40:32,622 --> 00:40:36,302
said i wanted to i want to know god god said start

496
00:40:36,302 --> 00:40:40,082
writing right as i

497
00:40:40,082 --> 00:40:43,122
look back and i stand and think man all these

498
00:40:43,122 --> 00:40:46,922
things i've had to go through were like all

499
00:40:46,922 --> 00:40:49,642
the trials whatever you want to

500
00:40:49,642 --> 00:40:56,482
call it but i was actually being tested god said okay i'm gonna make sure this

501
00:40:56,482 --> 00:41:02,302
i trust you is that's why he put me through all these texts and then this book

502
00:41:02,302 --> 00:41:05,662
in the midst of it all and there are a lot of tests and trials that i would

503
00:41:05,662 --> 00:41:09,062
put in a lot of about you know officiating too,

504
00:41:09,522 --> 00:41:17,002
so many times yeah you really have to be as i like to say you have to be calm.

505
00:41:18,262 --> 00:41:25,042
Calm because a lot of people will say things that really get under your skin

506
00:41:25,042 --> 00:41:28,322
but you can't let it bother you.

507
00:41:28,402 --> 00:41:30,762
You can't show it.

508
00:41:31,502 --> 00:41:38,602
As an umpire, you're going to hear a lot of things, but they'll never hit you

509
00:41:38,602 --> 00:41:43,642
until you turn around and look at the person that said it, and all of a sudden

510
00:41:43,642 --> 00:41:46,122
you realize they were turning around.

511
00:41:46,582 --> 00:41:51,662
Let them know that what they're saying is really bothering them.

512
00:41:52,122 --> 00:41:55,342
Now, they're going to get louder, and the person next to them is going to get

513
00:41:55,342 --> 00:41:57,402
louder, And the person next to them is going to get loud.

514
00:41:57,922 --> 00:42:04,342
The lesson there is, hey, as long as you keep your mouth shut, just finish up the game.

515
00:42:04,762 --> 00:42:06,842
It's having that, I guess, fifth-year outlet.

516
00:42:07,762 --> 00:42:11,062
Come into the game and talk about the referee or the umpire.

517
00:42:11,502 --> 00:42:16,622
And I realize that once they decide, hey, to come on and be an official themselves,

518
00:42:17,022 --> 00:42:19,222
then they'll realize it's not easy.

519
00:42:19,302 --> 00:42:22,562
They'll say, look, it's just like someone from the stands.

520
00:42:22,662 --> 00:42:27,402
They can see every play. But once you get on that field and you can't see no

521
00:42:27,402 --> 00:42:31,382
further than five yards away, what happens? Man, he's got to move a whole lot faster.

522
00:42:32,929 --> 00:42:37,109
You start, you know, refereeing, you get that concept of, you know,

523
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:38,329
something. I don't have to see everywhere.

524
00:42:38,529 --> 00:42:41,189
All I have to do is see in a certain spot.

525
00:42:41,929 --> 00:42:44,429
Spot. That's it. You learn that.

526
00:42:45,329 --> 00:42:51,669
Mm-hmm. It's just like, I'd say is just like Moses, just follow his guide.

527
00:42:51,889 --> 00:42:54,309
Doesn't matter how bad it looks or how crazy it looks.

528
00:42:54,909 --> 00:43:00,869
Life is always going to look crazier because you're not used to seeing it like

529
00:43:00,869 --> 00:43:02,589
no one else is used to seeing it.

530
00:43:02,929 --> 00:43:06,789
But it's God's way of showing you, hey, this is the way I want it done.

531
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:10,029
It's ordinary to him. What he does.

532
00:43:10,969 --> 00:43:14,749
Right. Just follow. That's it. Right.

533
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:20,989
And we don't know what the other side of it looks like, but he knows what the

534
00:43:20,989 --> 00:43:22,109
other side of it looks like.

535
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:25,529
And like you said, just follow. Just follow.

536
00:43:26,349 --> 00:43:32,129
But sometimes I think people make it a lot harder than what it actually is.

537
00:43:32,129 --> 00:43:36,469
When you say just follow, just follow sounds, it sounds easy.

538
00:43:36,749 --> 00:43:39,309
It sounds easy. It sounds wonderful.

539
00:43:39,609 --> 00:43:46,169
It sounds great until the trials and the tribulations come along.

540
00:43:46,469 --> 00:43:51,129
And then all of a sudden following doesn't sound so beautiful anymore. more.

541
00:43:51,229 --> 00:43:58,069
So then what do you suggest for someone on their spiritual journey as you've

542
00:43:58,069 --> 00:44:04,749
been on in the midst of writing your book and doing the things that God has told you to do?

543
00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:10,509
What do you suggest for the next person out here that may be headed down the

544
00:44:10,509 --> 00:44:12,089
same path that you're headed down,

545
00:44:12,209 --> 00:44:18,069
but they hadn't got it completely all the way in their heart that they're ready

546
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:21,289
to follow Follow what God is telling you.

547
00:44:22,531 --> 00:44:28,391
The best thing I can tell you is that have faith in God. I'm going to say it's not going to be easy.

548
00:44:28,871 --> 00:44:33,111
It is going to be hard. It is designed to be hard.

549
00:44:33,551 --> 00:44:38,511
Because the distractions and the obstacles, they're going to do what they're supposed to do.

550
00:44:38,871 --> 00:44:42,371
And that is to stop you from doing what God told you to do.

551
00:44:42,851 --> 00:44:45,571
They're going to do what they're supposed to do. Now, our job is to do what

552
00:44:45,571 --> 00:44:49,711
God says, hey, now we're going to have faith in God.

553
00:44:49,771 --> 00:44:52,091
What God says, go from A to B.

554
00:44:52,711 --> 00:44:58,211
Our job is to go from A to B. Don't worry about what's in the middle.

555
00:44:58,971 --> 00:45:01,291
He's already taking care of that, but we got to go through it,

556
00:45:01,311 --> 00:45:05,951
though. We can't go around it. We can't go up. No, we got to go through.

557
00:45:06,211 --> 00:45:13,231
We got to have faith in God to say, he's made a way because he said, go from here to there.

558
00:45:13,591 --> 00:45:17,091
We got to keep telling ourselves the same thing over and over and over.

559
00:45:17,651 --> 00:45:23,391
Because if we don't, that one time when we decide, God said, man, this is so hard.

560
00:45:24,131 --> 00:45:28,451
Why, why is this? And you know something, that one time when we feel that weakness,

561
00:45:28,591 --> 00:45:31,431
or I'll tell you many times, we're going to feel that weakness,

562
00:45:32,151 --> 00:45:37,111
God's going to send a brother or sister to come to us in that moment or a song

563
00:45:37,111 --> 00:45:39,351
on the radio that says, do this.

564
00:45:39,811 --> 00:45:45,691
You can do it. He put it in you. That's why he knows that you can do it and nobody else can do it.

565
00:45:45,771 --> 00:45:48,251
He put it in you for that reason.

566
00:45:48,811 --> 00:45:53,831
You just keep on doing it doesn't matter how it look or how people will always

567
00:45:53,831 --> 00:45:56,431
tell you man that don't make no sense man.

568
00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,660
People want to always know, want to know what the details are,

569
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,780
and then they'll decide whether they want to do it or not. Well,

570
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,900
God doesn't work like that.

571
00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:10,460
God doesn't tell you the details. He says, hey, dude, our job is to have faith

572
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:14,380
in him, not, well, you give me the information. Tell me what's going to happen, God.

573
00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:20,000
Give me the, well, I'm going to have to go through and let me decide what I want to do.

574
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,960
You don't want to decide. Very true. True. You know, and what you're saying,

575
00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:31,540
I can attest to very well, because what we're doing right now here on the kickback,

576
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,300
I've been wanting to do something of this nature for a while. And you're right.

577
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,800
There are always the naysayers. There's always the people who says,

578
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:43,720
well, you can't do that or that ain't going to be successful.

579
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,120
That's full. Oh, how'd you do that? Oh, why? Why?

580
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,380
You know, it's always the why.

581
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:54,120
Why are you doing that? Oh, why are you this? Oh, why are you that?

582
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:57,640
And it was this was all God's plan.

583
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:04,000
It was an idea that God put in my head just as well as choosing the person that

584
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,100
is here, you know, to be my co-host and just different things.

585
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:13,800
That was God's anointing. That wasn't my anointing at all.

586
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,280
It was something that God had put together for me that I needed from him.

587
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:29,760
And it was the steps to get here for me was I kept stepping to the side every

588
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,600
time God was like, here's your opportunity.

589
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:36,580
Here's your opportunity. Here's your opportunity. and I just kept simply stepping

590
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:39,500
to the side because I thought it wasn't for me at that moment.

591
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:44,640
So I get... Go ahead. No, go ahead.

592
00:47:45,260 --> 00:47:51,040
No, it's funny when you said the naysayers, the naysayers always seem to be

593
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,960
there right when I want to step out of my comfort zone and start doing something.

594
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,400
All of a sudden, my best friends come along or something comes along and says,

595
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,940
you know, that's that confirmation from God to say, yeah, that's what I need to do right there.

596
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:13,460
Because naysayers are here. Naysayers don't bother folk when they ain't doing nothing.

597
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,700
Think about that. You're right.

598
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,920
I'm good. Anybody can do that. You can do something different from what you've

599
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,500
always done. Why don't you want to do something like that? That don't make no sense.

600
00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:30,640
Yeah, that's what I'm supposed to be doing right there. But it doesn't make sense now.

601
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:35,900
But once I keep doing it, all of a sudden they go, I don't know When he started that,

602
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:46,500
God made sense The only thing he said Again We have to be persistent In following What God says To do,

603
00:48:47,711 --> 00:48:51,151
says, oh yeah, I was there when he started that. You know, it was...

604
00:48:53,591 --> 00:48:59,331
Not everybody can see your vision. Yes.

605
00:49:02,231 --> 00:49:10,631
And you know, God has shown me that, but it took me a while to realize that.

606
00:49:10,751 --> 00:49:18,331
It took me a while to realize that everything that God has given to me is not for everybody.

607
00:49:19,391 --> 00:49:23,891
It's not for everybody. And it took me a while because, you know,

608
00:49:24,731 --> 00:49:28,891
if you think about some of the ways we were raised up, you know,

609
00:49:28,991 --> 00:49:33,031
it's, that's my family, that's my cousin, that's my, that's my,

610
00:49:33,031 --> 00:49:36,351
my sister, that's my uncle, that's my whoever.

611
00:49:36,531 --> 00:49:38,571
So I got to bring them along with me.

612
00:49:39,251 --> 00:49:45,131
And when you try to insert instances, when you try to bring family alone because

613
00:49:45,131 --> 00:49:52,651
I've tried to bring some cousins along with me during my journey,

614
00:49:52,751 --> 00:49:55,951
and it didn't work out the way that it was supposed to.

615
00:49:56,211 --> 00:50:00,111
And I take it as God saying they weren't supposed to be there.

616
00:50:01,091 --> 00:50:03,951
This was for you, not for them.

617
00:50:07,491 --> 00:50:12,331
Yeah. I brought the people that were praying against me and with me and they

618
00:50:12,331 --> 00:50:16,391
were on my team and I didn't even know it. I want you to be where they are.

619
00:50:18,531 --> 00:50:19,331
Don't do that.

620
00:50:22,171 --> 00:50:26,391
Right. But that's just that's how I was raised and that's how I was brought

621
00:50:26,391 --> 00:50:33,951
up was, you know, you bring family along with you and you try to help them be better or do better.

622
00:50:34,191 --> 00:50:37,791
And I've learned in some instances, some

623
00:50:37,791 --> 00:50:40,951
people don't want it or you show

624
00:50:40,951 --> 00:50:44,491
them what you have going on and they

625
00:50:44,491 --> 00:50:48,471
want what you got instead of trying to build their own jealousy

626
00:50:48,471 --> 00:50:55,591
and and it's hard sometimes to understand that it could be somebody you share

627
00:50:55,591 --> 00:51:02,051
that you share blood with that's the hurtful part to me is the fact that it's

628
00:51:02,051 --> 00:51:05,891
it it's your family the people you share blood with,

629
00:51:05,971 --> 00:51:10,111
the people that, you know, you all have shared a pallet together.

630
00:51:10,351 --> 00:51:15,091
You all have shared a meal together on more than one occasion.

631
00:51:16,051 --> 00:51:23,191
And they are the ones who are there to try to sabotage or stab you in the back.

632
00:51:24,828 --> 00:51:31,388
But on the other side of it, so is there another book in the workings?

633
00:51:32,208 --> 00:51:36,508
Well, let's just say I've got a chapter of another book already.

634
00:51:37,568 --> 00:51:42,808
Cool, cool, cool. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. God put it in. God just write it.

635
00:51:43,768 --> 00:51:48,128
Hey, and that may be what he wants you to do.

636
00:51:48,248 --> 00:51:52,668
So keep writing, my brother, until God tells you to stop writing.

637
00:51:52,668 --> 00:51:58,728
Keep writing. because only you know the relationship that you have with your God.

638
00:52:00,088 --> 00:52:05,848
Oh, only you know the relationship you have with your God. And I can't tell

639
00:52:05,848 --> 00:52:07,308
you anything different.

640
00:52:07,748 --> 00:52:13,628
You have to know what he's saying to you. And you have to know when it's time

641
00:52:13,628 --> 00:52:19,848
for you to not do what he's asking you to do anymore. born.

642
00:52:20,288 --> 00:52:23,368
Dave, you got anything to say here on the back end, my brother?

643
00:52:24,188 --> 00:52:29,588
Man, I was just enjoying this conversation and I was thinking about the Apostle

644
00:52:29,588 --> 00:52:31,148
John on the island of Patmos.

645
00:52:31,348 --> 00:52:38,728
You know, God had to take that brother to a desolate place for him to write the book of Revelation.

646
00:52:39,788 --> 00:52:43,748
And I'm just thankful that my brother Albert here didn't have to get put in

647
00:52:43,748 --> 00:52:47,048
isolation like that to turn out his writings.

648
00:52:48,188 --> 00:52:54,528
Hey, I actually have to isolate my stuff to write in there Get away from the

649
00:52:54,528 --> 00:52:58,448
stretch Right Like the TV.

650
00:53:01,668 --> 00:53:10,508
The TV is your kryptonite I see The TV is powerful man It is you're right The

651
00:53:10,508 --> 00:53:13,988
TV is very powerful man It take over you sometimes,

652
00:53:15,508 --> 00:53:27,208
It is It is built for entertainment, but it's also built to down to to take us down a notch.

653
00:53:28,368 --> 00:53:32,948
Now, just talking entertainment, have either one of you brothers seen the new

654
00:53:32,948 --> 00:53:36,688
movie that's out yet or called The Forge?

655
00:53:37,926 --> 00:53:41,486
I have not. And I haven't had an opportunity to get to it either.

656
00:53:42,006 --> 00:53:44,626
My brothers, you all need to go see that movie.

657
00:53:46,166 --> 00:53:51,246
Man, it is a wonderful, wonderful film.

658
00:53:52,006 --> 00:53:54,986
Me and the wife went to go see it this weekend.

659
00:53:55,346 --> 00:54:00,746
And when I say you praise God, you cry a little bit.

660
00:54:01,126 --> 00:54:04,006
You praise God, you cry a little bit.

661
00:54:04,626 --> 00:54:11,066
And you understand what God was trying to say and what he's trying to do.

662
00:54:11,406 --> 00:54:19,046
And it resonated with me a whole lot because it's sort of like it's speaking

663
00:54:19,046 --> 00:54:21,606
on what I was saying to you, Albert,

664
00:54:21,766 --> 00:54:27,946
my journey to get to where I'm at right now and to build this platform.

665
00:54:28,346 --> 00:54:32,286
And we're still building and God God is God is leading the way.

666
00:54:32,406 --> 00:54:41,206
He's he is the man who is forging the path for us here at the kickback to be where we are.

667
00:54:41,386 --> 00:54:47,646
And I'm so thankful for the Lord for forging this path and giving us the the

668
00:54:47,646 --> 00:54:53,346
ability to have these conversations with wonderful gentlemen like you,

669
00:54:53,346 --> 00:54:59,586
because what we're trying to do is we're simply just trying to show one young man.

670
00:55:00,386 --> 00:55:05,246
One, if we can save one soul, then the mission,

671
00:55:05,486 --> 00:55:10,246
I'm not going to say it's done, but it just means that we are forging a path

672
00:55:10,246 --> 00:55:14,506
in the right direction, that domestic violence isn't right,

673
00:55:14,686 --> 00:55:18,766
that what he may be going through right now, some other man,

674
00:55:18,906 --> 00:55:24,146
per se, you have already been through it, and not Not to feel like you're less

675
00:55:24,146 --> 00:55:29,606
than a man or you have to do these things in order to maneuver through life.

676
00:55:30,186 --> 00:55:34,526
Someone's been where you've been and it gets better on the other side.

677
00:55:36,144 --> 00:55:41,384
You got to have God in your life. You've got to have God in your life to understand

678
00:55:41,384 --> 00:55:44,384
that it will be better on the other side.

679
00:55:45,004 --> 00:55:49,964
So, Mr. Porterfield, we appreciate you today.

680
00:55:50,104 --> 00:55:55,904
This was a wonderful, wonderful conversation, and I love your testimony,

681
00:55:56,004 --> 00:56:01,144
and I love that you shared your life experiences and your books.

682
00:56:01,284 --> 00:56:06,504
Where can we find in the midst of it all right now?

683
00:56:06,624 --> 00:56:09,284
Where is it? It's published, right?

684
00:56:09,924 --> 00:56:16,364
Yes, it's published on Amazon.com and I also carry books also with me.

685
00:56:16,824 --> 00:56:20,464
So if you would like to get a copy of Mr.

686
00:56:20,764 --> 00:56:25,904
Albert Porterfield's, aka my homie, The Dude in a Pew's book,

687
00:56:26,164 --> 00:56:30,964
check him out. Do you have any contact that people could get in touch with you

688
00:56:30,964 --> 00:56:34,944
if they want to get a copy from you in person?

689
00:56:35,144 --> 00:56:39,944
How can people reach you? Do you have a Facebook or Instagram or Twitter?

690
00:56:40,124 --> 00:56:45,444
You don't have to give out your personal phone number, but email or something of that nature.

691
00:56:45,484 --> 00:56:53,984
So our listeners, if they would like to acquire a copy of the book other than Amazon, Amazon.com.

692
00:56:53,984 --> 00:56:58,644
Go check out his book But do you have any other contact information That you

693
00:56:58,644 --> 00:57:03,064
could give out To our listeners Just in case they want to get the book from

694
00:57:03,064 --> 00:57:07,444
you Yes, you can always go to Faithbook Go to Albert Quartersville Jr.

695
00:57:08,324 --> 00:57:15,184
And if you want to go to my email You can It's called dudeinthepew At yahoo.com.

696
00:57:20,884 --> 00:57:30,684
Dude in the pew Yahoo.com alrighty and you said Facebook at Albert Porterfield Jr.

697
00:57:31,064 --> 00:57:36,984
Right? Yes sir alrighty Dave you got anything to say at the end of this show

698
00:57:36,984 --> 00:57:39,984
because we're about to close the floor.

699
00:57:41,704 --> 00:57:47,384
I think just put the contacts in yeah just put the contact in there And I'm

700
00:57:47,384 --> 00:57:51,144
just going to say, you know, it's nice when brothers can all come together and

701
00:57:51,144 --> 00:57:56,124
have conversation and agree and come to a level of agreeance.

702
00:57:56,164 --> 00:58:00,144
We might not always we might not always see it the same way or we might not

703
00:58:00,144 --> 00:58:01,564
all experience it the same way.

704
00:58:01,984 --> 00:58:06,864
But it's nice to be able to sit down and have a conversation and get a better understanding.

705
00:58:07,784 --> 00:58:13,424
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I totally agree with that. And that is the mission here.

706
00:58:13,544 --> 00:58:20,144
The kickback is to let fellows know that we can sit down and discuss real world

707
00:58:20,144 --> 00:58:29,304
topics without there being any animosity of any type or any just whatever you

708
00:58:29,304 --> 00:58:32,144
may have going on in your life. It's on.

709
00:58:32,964 --> 00:58:41,824
This is a judgment free zone and we can have real conversations about marriage, life, rearing kids,

710
00:58:42,184 --> 00:58:48,064
domestic violence, just whatever it may be going on in your life or whatever

711
00:58:48,064 --> 00:58:49,604
you feel like you want to talk about.

712
00:58:49,604 --> 00:58:56,204
We're always here at the kickback and we're ready to have these unadulterated conversations today.

713
00:58:56,844 --> 00:59:01,204
Again, we'd like to thank you, Mr. Albert Porterfield, Jr..

714
00:59:02,305 --> 00:59:11,665
A.k.a. The Dude in a Pew, Mr. The Unexpected Happened, and the new title, In the Midst of It All.

715
00:59:12,125 --> 00:59:17,425
We'd like to thank you for coming to the show. Now, every guest,

716
00:59:17,525 --> 00:59:21,625
we always extend an olive branch and say you're always welcome on the show.

717
00:59:21,825 --> 00:59:29,065
On Friday afternoons, we have Freedom Fridays, where we do a two-hour open live

718
00:59:29,065 --> 00:59:33,345
show where you can come in And you can discuss anything that's on your mind

719
00:59:33,345 --> 00:59:34,865
and anything you want to talk about.

720
00:59:35,005 --> 00:59:37,765
If you got five minutes, you got 10 minutes, you got 20 minutes,

721
00:59:37,805 --> 00:59:41,205
you got 30 minutes, you got an hour. Just come into the show.

722
00:59:41,385 --> 00:59:44,885
It'll be on Friday starting at 5 p.m.

723
00:59:45,205 --> 00:59:49,285
And we just talk. It's just brothers having open conversations.

724
00:59:49,505 --> 00:59:53,045
The last two weeks have been wonderful, wonderful, wonderful conversations.

725
00:59:53,385 --> 00:59:58,585
And I thank everyone that's been on the panel and had conversations with us

726
00:59:58,585 --> 01:00:01,685
on Freedom Fridays. days. Today was Topic Tuesday.

727
01:00:02,565 --> 01:00:06,445
Dave, take us out, my brother. Yes, sir. All right.

728
01:00:07,825 --> 01:00:11,565
Hey, I'm going to go back to what we do at Emmanuel Temple.

729
01:00:11,685 --> 01:00:19,325
Lord, help us to have one mind and let that mind be the mind of Christ.

730
01:00:19,705 --> 01:00:26,865
The mind of Christ. In Jesus' name. I love it. I love it. You guys have a great afternoon. noon.

731
01:00:27,245 --> 01:00:32,885
Thank you again, Mr. Porterfield. Dave, I'll see you on Friday, my boy.

732
01:00:33,485 --> 01:00:36,245
Yes, sir. All righty.